[nathanbedford]

If your complaint is that left-wingers exploit environmentalism to steal our liberties I am ready at a minute's notice to take my flintlock down from the mantle and join you on the ramparts.

But if you are telling me, a person who has witnessed the doubling of the population of America in his lifetime, that our conservative liberties are not threatened by unrestrained population growth, I will tell you that if you in fact have connection with Idaho your whole lifestyle is threatened by the sheer gnawing, insatiable appetites of a population exploding out of control.

Either we as conservatives face up to the implications of runaway population growth or we will end up living subterranean lives in a civil liberties sense like a rats in an urban environment with no conservative liberties to bequeath to our kids.

[Olog-hai]

Please stay away from these threads. You seem to misunderstand the premise eight ways to Sol Invictus Day. There is no “we as conservatives” if you are not one.

[CitizenUSA]

I agree. Our liberties are definitely threatened by unrestrained population growth, especially growth that is imported from third world countries and consists of people who do not share western ideals of self reliance, morality, and liberty. But, of course, that is exactly why one of our political parties (and a good share of the other) is working so hard to allow unlimited immigration. It’s called importing a voter base, and its end result is cultural suicide.

[Nervous Tick]

>> Either we as conservatives face up to the implications of runaway population growth or &etc

What’s your plan? What *changes* shall we make, once we “face up to the implications”?

[Alberta's Child]

What you're saying is that it's not the number of people that is the issue here, it's their political attitudes.

I could agree with that. In fact, I've long said that urbanization is the biggest threat to liberty in the modern world. It does two things to people that eventually makes them Marxists whether they realize it or not: (1) it makes them increasingly dependent on government in their everyday lives, and (2) it makes them so far removed from the processes of agriculture and production necessary for human existence that it breeds ignorance and idiocy in them.

[SumProVita]

There is NO runaway population growth. The attack on human beings via the old population control mentality has been debunked numerous times.

Did you know this:

Fertility Decline May Unhinge Asian Security, Expert Panel Says

NEW YORK, April 6 (C-FAM) The global fertility freefall is about to cause geopolitical upheaval in Asia, a panel of experts said this week. The experts, all contributors to the new book Population Decline and the Remaking of Great Power Politics, spoke at the world’s largest gathering of international relations specialists meeting in San Diego, California.

“For years scholars have said that if fewer people were born, the world would be a safer place. It turns out the opposite is true,” Dr. Susan Yoshihara told conferees at the 53rd annual convention of the International Studies Association, which drew more than 5000 scholars from around the world. Yoshihara is director of the International Organizations Research Group at C-FAM and coeditor of the new book with C-FAM Senior Fellow Douglas Sylva.

[Notary Sojac]

America’s birth rate is currently running at about 1.9, slightly below replacement level. Which tells me that if we can get immigration under control, we will have no, repeat, no, “unrestrained population growth”.