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To: Pining_4_TX

Hmmm, that is a new angle to me (agricultural payoff) when you are talking about the poor and their benefits.

I can of course see that it is a problem for all (taxes etc.A) but I’ve never heard of anyone specifically blaming the benefits to the agriculture business.

Okay, so please tell me how that works? Do you think that farmers should receive subsidies?

Really not sure where you stand here...are you for taxes reduced on all or just on farmers and ag businesses?

You sound like a Democrat with your rant though... Programs for the wealthy and problems for the poor farmers, ag businesses, and liquor sellers (just kidding there).

Just what are you advocating?


9 posted on 07/01/2012 11:52:40 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

80% of the federal “agriculture” department budget goes for food stanps

http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-want-food-stamps-cut-big-farm-bill-203018689—finance.html;_ylt=A2KLOzFmffFPBmkA_xfQtDMD


16 posted on 07/02/2012 3:52:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Deagle

The food stamp program is a part of agriculture bill recently passed. Of course, that bill is filled with subsidies. The reason the bill passed was because no one is willing to cut farm subsidies to curtail the food stamp program.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 3:53:19 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Deagle

Oh, dear, I hope never to be mistaken for a liberal of any kind. No, I was merely pointing out that in almost every case you should follow the money. Farmers and big agricultural businesses have been our nation’s richest welfare recipients for decades. Government programs, from “free” cheese to food stamps to price supports to supplying an excess of food to the military, are really designed to keep farm states happy. Yes, there are lots of freeloaders in the welfare system who are more than happy to take what is offered, but I suspect that farm state politicians would scream just as loudly as welfare queens if the food stamp program were to be cut in any way.

The irony of it is, though, that instead of helping farmers, these programs actually hurt them. Thus, we have seen the decline of the family farm and the rise of big business farming (another form of crony capitalism).

All government programs distort the market and make all problems worse. Government is the problem, not the solution.

You might find this interesting: http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/our-economic-past-subsidies-hurt-recipients-too/


47 posted on 07/03/2012 7:27:31 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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