Posted on 07/01/2012 5:08:58 PM PDT by george76
11 UK soldiers gunned down in Helmand in past three months, compared to two in the same period last year...
British soldiers in Afghanistan claim that new tactics are preventing them shooting at the Taliban until they have been fired at themselves – resulting in an alarming rise in the number of casualties.
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Soldiers now say they are particularly vulnerable when they are manning checkpoints at road junctions or patrolling Taliban heartlands such as the so-called ‘green zone’, a densely vegetated river valley.
One junior non-commissioned officer said: ‘When I arrived in Helmand, my officers said our tactics were going to change.
‘They said that if I saw somebody carrying a rifle or a rocket launcher, I shouldn’t fire at him. Only if he shot at me or a member of my patrol, and I could see a muzzle flash from his rifle, could I use my weapon.
‘I was shocked and so were my mates. We are trained to close in and kill the enemy, not to let him stroll on, watch us and let him choose the best time to ambush us.
On previous tours, we would have engaged the enemy first to show them what we were made of. We’re up for a fight but now we always have to back off.
‘It makes me question the point of us being here.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Apparently, you are cannon fodder, in order to convince the world that Western involvement in conflicts is always tragic and wrong. Isolationists like ROE that increase western casualties.
snif snif
smell’s like Obama
Isolationists like Islamic-Jihadist-Appeasing/Defending/Supporting, FASCIST, HATE-AMERICA/Military, B. Hussein Obama, who is REPSONBIBLE for these INSANE and INANE ROE'a and LOVES whatever it is that increase western ALL INFIDEL casualties
There, fixed it for you!
PS: And don't EVEN get me started on the SPINELESS, Jelly Fish, REMF, Armchair Generals (Almost ALL who have NEVER served in harms way and are POLITICAL A-Hole HACKS) who bow to their phony Community Agitator in Least and allow this travesty to jeapordize the safety of their Troops.
They are disgusting and a Shamefuls lot, and cast a BLACK MARK on all those who came before them, such as McCarthur, Eisenhower, and Patton.
These are the ROEs as commanded by Gen. John Allen, obama’s ISAF commander. Yep, hussein’s directive to limit ALL mohammaden casualties, terrorist and civilian.
“‘They said that if I saw somebody carrying a rifle or a rocket launcher, I shouldn’t fire at him. Only if he shot at me or a member of my patrol, and I could see a muzzle flash from his rifle, could I use my weapon.”
Well at least thats better than our border patrol agents who are told to run and hide if they fired on.
Same basic ROE for the US Border Patrol!
The described policy is not the modus operandi where I am at.
When a PKM or a Dragunov weapon is spotted (via methods I can't speak of), in the hands of the Taliban.....most certain pain is coming their way.
The sphincter factor, among the Taliban, is very high around here.
The “Great Taliban Spring Offensive”, highly touted in the MSM, has regressed into the “Great Taliban Spring Defensive”.
Much of the Taliban influx from Pakistan is receding.
The described policy is not the modus operandi where I am at.
When a PKM or a Dragunov weapon is spotted (via methods I can't speak of), in the hands of the Taliban.....most certain pain is coming their way.
But hey......Marines break things. The sphincter factor, among the Taliban, is very high around here.
The “Great Taliban Spring Offensive”, highly touted in the MSM, has regressed into the “Great Taliban Spring Defensive”.
Much of the Taliban influx from Pakistan is receding.
“There, fixed it for you!
PS: And don’t EVEN get me started on the SPINELESS, Jelly Fish, REMF, Armchair Generals (Almost ALL who have NEVER served in harms way and are POLITICAL A-Hole HACKS) who bow to their phony Community Agitator in Least and allow this travesty to jeapordize the safety of their Troops.
They are disgusting and a Shamefuls lot, and cast a BLACK MARK on all those who came before them, such as McCarthur, Eisenhower, and Patton.”
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Well Said! USN ret. sends.
Ooo...rah
Why would they not dispatch their officers in this case? Then go about their business fighting the enemy.
Normally, soldiers will sometimes do combat patrols (to find the enemy, sometimes by being ambushed), and at other times, set up and execute ambushes. Being limited only to combat patrols to only be ambushed by the enemy is messed up.
Uh, might be a little late to return fire if the enemy is any kind of a shot. IOW, you're merely target practice and now the enemy knows it.
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