Posted on 06/29/2012 9:04:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Many conservatives are feeling betrayed by the chief justice's vote to uphold Obamacare. But there's a counterintuitive case to be made that John Roberts's decision is largely a victory for conservatives.
Every time I visit Washington, D.C., I am struck by a single, terrible thought: It is not just that conservatives are losing the various battles over big government, but they have been losing the war for generations. The most conservatives are ever able to do is tinker at the margins – and celebrating small victories like lowering marginal tax rates is a sign of just how low our sights are set.
Why has this happened? After all, this was a country founded in direct opposition to unlimited governmental power. How have we arrived at a point when the feds can do just about anything they want?
It is because, at critical moments in the nation’s history, the advocates of limited government were on the losing side of the political equation, and the opposition was very effective at consolidating its victory. Not only did big government advocates implement policy changes, they also brought about huge structural innovations to the way the government functions.
The progressives of the early 1900s managed this with the 16th Amendment, legalizing the income tax and opening up whole avenues of power that had been previously off limits. The political genius of that move must be admired: The left got its hands on the government for a relatively short period of time, but it sure made hay while the sun was out. We’re still paying the price today -- quite literally. Similarly, the New Deal took advantage of a national emergency to ram through ......
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Let's assume for the sake of argument that he is. Is that his job? This line of reasoning rests on the idea that the court system and the Constitution are just fodder for payback and politics and now mean nothing.
Whatever the reason, he went way, way out on a limb to do it because the opinion is just first rate gibberish.
I’m sorry. I should have italicized the first part of my post.
I can see where this may become very useful for our gov't in the future...
Face it America; John Roberts, he’s just not into you.
Face it America; John Roberts, he’s just not that into you.
LLS
This is where the evidence comes in that Roberts changed his vote after the opinions were written. The Dissent talks about this very issue- but doesn’t address it because they say it isn’t necessary.
It wouldn’t be necessary if the Dissent has originally been the Majority Opinion .
200 years from now people will look at this and say What the hell happened..why wasn’t the discussion necessary. Is it really not a tax????
You could say that, but it wouldn't be true!
Roberts put a fork into the Constitution and declared it dead.
And all these articles trying to declare that Roberts is a political genius is just RINO propaganda.
Doesn’t matter all the left needed was ONE vote whether it came from Roberts or Kennedy and Kennedy seemed like an easier target
LLS
Sorry if I missed your intent.
LLS
excellent read and maybe we should thank Justice Roberts and do the job of killing bambi care ourselves......
To the left the end always justifies the means.
We forever fight them the hard way - let them freely create a lop-sided playing field because for us the end can never justify the means. We watched helplessly as they usurp the presidency, steal the elections, shove obozocare down our throats, mock us for not being able to stop their lawlessness.......
Isn’t it time to level the playing field?
If CJ Roberts was indeed diabolically (yet observing the constitution) allowing obozocare stand as a tax issue thus opening the doors for us to more easily repeal it, or shocking us into voting out obozo and the bums, we should be glad that we finally are in the offense, instead of always stuck in the defense mode.
There is nothing wrong with diabolically working within the constitutional framework to surround them in order to achieve our goals.
When doing the obvious (a simple ruling that obozocare is unconstitutional) will hand them the victory, wouldn’t you do the less obvious to snatch victory from them?
We all know obozo will simply ignore the supreme if they rule obozocare unconstitutional and they will fight even harder, blaming the supreme while rallying their obots to another election victory.
The end - removing obozo, obozocare and the dems
The means - less obvious but still within the bounds of the constitution, such as -
***exposing their lies (it is a TAX!)
*** fanning the fire to vote them out (must remove obozo to remove obozocare!),
*** forcing them into defense while giving them a false sense of ‘victory’.
In an ideal world, the supreme will do the obvious.
This not an ideal world! It is a matter of survival. Wouldn’t you do things to survive?
If CJ Roberts had been coerced/threatened into a ruling for obozocare, his ruling has accomplished 2 things at once - hand them a false victory, and, save his own skin while dealing them a gigantic blow!
Embrace the winning strategy!
Know your enemies. Do not fight blindly!
I know that my point is why did as you say Roberts get pressured by the left but not Kennedy who would seem a more likely target
He was diabolical only to liberty loving people.
"(yet observing the constitution)"
He didn't. He obliterated the Constitution.
"allowing obozocare stand as a tax issue"
He wrote law, saved Obama, Obamacare, and opened the door to tyrannies never before possible.
"thus opening the doors for us to more easily repeal it"
Sure, why take a guaranteed win today when you can delay and hope and pray for a non-guaranteed victory later?
You know the old saying. Two in the bush is better than one in the hand.
"shocking us into voting out obozo and the bums,"
Not his job.
"we should be glad"
You are delusional.
"that we finally are in the offense"
Yah!!! Roberts handed our enemies a victory so we have to fight another battle for no good reason. He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Yah!!!
What a kind and just overlord Justice Roberts is. I'm so thankful he's benevolent.
The Supreme Court is political and ideological. All Justices are hired in the hope that they will tend to rule in the chosen direction. Claims to the contrary are lies.
It does not matter... the ONLY thing that matters is that a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court operate strictly within the confines of the Constitution and his oath of office. If he violates that for any reason... he or she is not worthy to hold that position.
LLS
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