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1 posted on 06/29/2012 9:21:15 AM PDT by QT3.14
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Well hot damn! That should make everyone fell better!


2 posted on 06/29/2012 9:25:12 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Of course it isn’t. Limbaugh has a tendency to throw crap at walls to see what sticks.

Is it big? Sure is? Biggest ever? Prove it.


3 posted on 06/29/2012 9:25:22 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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politifact is a left wing biased site.

None of the other taxes they list come close to the cost of obamacare.


4 posted on 06/29/2012 9:25:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Politico is using the original and flawed CBO numbers. The reality is more than double that number


5 posted on 06/29/2012 9:27:38 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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Health-Reform is Constitutional: Here are the Tax Implications

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2900705/posts

not "tax", but many taxes.

Obama Admin. Actuary Finds Unsustainable Status Quo Cheaper than Obamacare

http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/16/obama-administration-actuaries

The two reasons they gave for the "overhaul" to healthcare: "to cut costs" - NOPE ,costs will go up actually. "to insure everyone" - NOPE, 10’s of millions will still be uninsured. In other words, the plan is a total failure. This is about power and control.

A little known fact of the Obamacare Law (among many other unpleasant surprises in the fine print you can be sure) is a 3.8% tax to be imposed when you sell your home--most people's greatest or only asset. 3.8% to Uncle Sam right off the bat. So how will that tax impact those who are involved in distress sales, who are underwater on their homes?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704113504575264513748386610.html

6 posted on 06/29/2012 9:30:39 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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The authors of the article are salivating over the estimated revenue increases as tax-and-spend advocates always do, and they will be as disappointed as those always are when that revenue somehow fails to appear. They are, in fact, attempting to compare speculation with real data. “Truth-o-meter”? That’s pretty funny, actually.


7 posted on 06/29/2012 9:31:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Did these idiots include the cost of multiplying the number of uncovered months, times the weighted average of the monthly premium for a plan in the person’s coverage class and coverage area plan, then add a 15 percent surcharge after that? That is now considered a tax.

If not they are f’ing liars.

Next you need to figure the amount of actual cost of your plan because if you do not pay you are paying the tax described in the first paragraph.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 9:33:42 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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These libs are running your country.

Thanks for not giving a ****.

Now go pay your taxes, your country is broke. :)


11 posted on 06/29/2012 9:33:42 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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If Obamacare is enacted fully, the tax implications will be enormous over a long, long time. Look at Medicare and SS. Obamacare is the third and final piece of the puzzle that gives the government total control over health care. The period thru 2019 is just a downpayment on the total cost of Obamacare.


13 posted on 06/29/2012 9:35:13 AM PDT by kabar
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The CBO numbers are the originals. The CBO has updated things a couple of times. Ironically, the CBO has reduced the anticipated tax revenue and adjusted the cost for Obamacare up by almost 2x.

With regards to how this “tax increase” scales, they have also left out the additional costs to the consumers ($1,200 fines, etc.) There is no way to measure the tax increase specifically.

The reality of it is that our healthcare industry was one of the very few (gun/ammunition manufacturers) that was in the green/black during these economic times. The cost and regulatory compliance issues are going up for pharmacuitacle companies, medical device manufactures, doctors, hospitals, etc. There is no way to measure that impact to our healthcare industry.

Folks should start their own medical savings accounts and be prepared to pay doctors in cash.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 9:35:45 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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RUSH IS RIGHT!.......and SPOT ON TODAY!!!! I stand with him 100%.


16 posted on 06/29/2012 9:38:28 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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Of course it’s small. They used Obama’s numbers to calculate the tax. I surprised Politifact didn’t declare Obamacare a tax *cut.*


18 posted on 06/29/2012 9:42:46 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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Very interesting reaction up here in Canada. I was at a citizen forum discussing suggestions to improve the health care system here. The Supreme court decision came up and the people at my table couldn’t believe it went to the Supreme Court basically saying how the hell else are you going to pay for universal coverage without drawing on taxes as a revenue source.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 9:43:16 AM PDT by easyrighter
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Not valid.
They left out some of the taxes:

http://news.investors.com/article/616549/201206281902/supreme-court-confirms-obamacare-massive-tax-burden.htm
“The new taxes, which cost some $675 billion over the next decade...”

CBO reports are famous for being incredibly wrong, this one even says it doesn’t include the cost of the “Doc fix” which has already been passed- and future ones will pass too.


20 posted on 06/29/2012 9:48:09 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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The author seem only to be looking at the various taxes included in the bill. Is he also taking into account the costs of insurance premiums that are MANDATED, and according to Justice Roberts are considered a tax? If he’s not, then HE is the one who is wrong.


21 posted on 06/29/2012 9:48:30 AM PDT by SuziQ
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If the death panel denys your treatment, and you die....yeah, it’s the largest.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 9:55:19 AM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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A tax is a tax no matter how large or small. The majority of us cannot afford more of them. They add up and make slaves of those of us forced to pay them.

The supreme court just gave the green light for the government to tax us with unlimited power. There is nothing objective or fair about this system of institutionalized slavery. We must severely limit the governments power to tax us to destitution and death.

This slavery is justified by Homeland security as productive US citizens are deemed a greater threat to this country than the Muslim Brotherhood. We are the evil preventing the implementation of their imperial dreams.

Time to call them out and end this behavior before it is too late.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 9:56:10 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Pete Times) and its twin sister, the Tampa Tribune (Ma Trib) are both Leftist mouthpieces as is Politifact.

The Leftist spin has begun.


25 posted on 06/29/2012 9:56:10 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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Valid?

Moot. This is much, much bigger than just a tax applied for failure to comply with Obamacare. SCOTUS just gave the other branches of government complete power to apply taxes to anything they deem required and not complied with. The door has been kicked down.

26 posted on 06/29/2012 9:57:47 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Liberty Experiment is over. All aspects of your life will now be MANDATED.)
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politifact is a democrat front group. This kind of garbage belongs on the DUmpster site.


27 posted on 06/29/2012 9:57:47 AM PDT by soycd
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