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To: kabar

Please break out your pocket constitution....

Go to article 1, section 8..

Back when the framers were still alive, it was ruled that naturalization and immigration are linked, and therefore one and the same..

the states cannot set their own immigration policies

period

this power is specifically granted to the federal government

any power not granted to the federal government is reserved by the states and the people, respectively

the fed cannot interfere with local law enforcement

This was upheld

To put it bluntly, what would california do with an ability to set it’s own immigration policy?

answer, it would open the floodgates

not a “popular” or “trendy” ruling, but a constitutionally correct one


74 posted on 06/28/2012 5:40:52 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone
Back when the framers were still alive, it was ruled that naturalization and immigration are linked, and therefore one and the same..the states cannot set their own immigration policies

You can buy that nonsense of the majority decision and the government's lawyers. Read the dissents of Scalia, Alito, and Thonmas.

AZ was not setting its own immigration policies. None of its laws conflicted with federal law. The federal government's case was a joke in terms of preemption and the Supremacy clause.

88 posted on 06/28/2012 5:52:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: joe fonebone
Excellent Post!

The true value of the Arizona Law is to bring it to the attention of the entire nation that the Federal Government is not enforcing its immigration laws and not doing its primary duty...that of protecting the people of the United States of America.

Like you clearly stated, the Supreme Court was excactly right in its ruling.

92 posted on 06/28/2012 5:59:16 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: joe fonebone
not a “popular” or “trendy” ruling, but a constitutionally correct one

I disagree.

While Congress obviously has sole constitutional power to set immigration and naturalization policy, the AZ law simply mirrored federal law.

And remember, these particular laws are laws that are in fulfillment of the absolute constitutional obligation by the United States to secure the states from invasion.

To tell the state of AZ that they cannot, in the absence of federal fulfillment of its most important duties, enforce these laws is to say that they cannot defend themselves.

And the right of self-defense is God-given, unalienable, intrinsic.

100 posted on 06/28/2012 6:14:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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