Will the decision come down at 8:45 or 9:00?
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Regarding the SCOTUS vote that will probably be announced today (deciding on two issues - the Obamacare mandate and Obamacare itself):
4 in favor: the four Socialist amigos will have decided as a block (kind of like a SCOTUS stronghold).
3 against: Scalia, Thomas, and Alito (our freedom-loving, Constitution-loving Justices).
Unfortunately, that means only one of the remaining two is needed to decide in favor of Obamacare.
2 uncertain: Kennedy (as usual) and Roberts (suprisingly).
The Kennedy vote depends which side of the bed he rose up the day of the decision. If for some reason Kennedy has voted against both issues, then we still may have a Roberts problem, because he is apparently loathe to overturn the legislature.
However, if SCOTUS blows it, the game isnt over. The states can and must do as Idaho did: nullify Obamacare and exempt its citizens from its mandates.
What would justify nullifying Obamacare? Its about what we call "law." The highest Law of the Land of course is the U.S. Constitution which trumps any other law that violates it. I'm sure you know this, but it's probably worth saying that in this sense, this "solid four" (or "socialist four") is for overturning the Law of the Land in favor of said "laws" like Obamacare that helps create a Socialist state. Because Obamacare is illegal (outside U.S. Constitutional bounds) and unjust (wrongly interfering with individual liberty) it is, therefore, as Augustine and Blackstone say below, NO LAW.
More on this below if interested from the Philosophy of Law:
[T]he Overlap Thesis underlies the classical naturalism of Aquinas and Blackstone. As Blackstone describes the thesis, "This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original" (1979, p. 41). In this passage, Blackstone articulates the two claims that constitute the theoretical core of classical naturalism: 1) there can be no legally valid standards that conflict with the natural law; and 2) all valid laws derive what force and authority they have from the natural law. On this view, to paraphrase Augustine, an unjust law is no law at all. http://www.threes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1409:philosophy-of-law&catid=75:philosophy&Itemid=60.
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Three decisions today
1. Stolen Valor
2. ????????
3. 0bamacare
I'm with you Rush ... Let's Roll!
Prediction:
To play it safe, SCOTUS will lecture
every litigant how they overstepped.
End it, don’t mend it.
Thanks for the thread... I have been trying to sleep, and just can’t. I hope after it’s announced I can actually get some sleep, but I doubt it. Waiting for the Holder vote as well, today. Too many “Big Doings” that really will have a HUGE impact on our country.
I thinking the ruling goes against ObamaCare, we see the beginning of the phase out of Dear Leader by the Dims as damage control.
No matter how carefully crafted the “three” supposed speeches are-—THIS was his LEGACY and his narcisstic personality (with him, this is personal) will start to unhinge. And quickly.
The “I” word has even been mentioned (and not just on the web). The stress will just “get to him” and he will step aside—my gut feeling.
Wailing & gnashing of teeth, book mark
We have to be prepared and have an action plan. The Rat Tottenburg is already saying the people will DEMAND a replacement law because they love Obamacare so far. Really? These commies never stop.
I’m rooting for throwing it all out. Whatever they decide I will live with.
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Nothing works right any more...
Today is proof that the system is the challenge.
Just wanted to make a note here to remind everyone that the Obamacare legislation did NOT include a SEVERABILITY CLAUSE which legally means that if SCOTUS strikes down the mandate, then the entire law SHOULD be scrapped, immediately.