Arizona Can't Do It; Washington Won't

Townhall.com ^ | June 26, 2012 | Debra J. Saunders

[Pearls Before Swine]

I mean, like how would Canada feel if Barack Obama had pamphlets on how to sneak into Canada printed and disseminated across the USA???

An immigration invasion of white people? He'd hate it!

[EBH]

“Guess the only alternative is for the people to do it !”

What is that saying about stuff not being the federal government’s jurisdiction being reserved to the states or the people?

I wonder does that apply when the federal government chooses to flout the law?

[Lady Lucky]

Guess the only alternative is for the people to do it!

Sure, when sheep drive coyotes.

[servantboy777]

I'm wondering why someone (not sure who) doesn't sue the federal government for NOT enforcing immigration laws and for the lack of border enforcement.

The constitution spells out the role of the federal government is to protect our borders and defend against enemies foreign and domestic.

Curious. Congress acts as if it has no power to stop this lawlessness out of the executive branch.

Furthermore, congress holds the purse strings. Why these bozo's don't begin cutting off the life blood of Obama’s pet projects in the EPA, DHS, TSA and so forth just befuddles me.

[old curmudgeon]

Take any agreement or contract that has ever been written or agreed to and you can find one lawyer that will interpret it as understood by the signer.

And another lawyer who will interpret it differently and be willing to go to court to contest the other person’s interpretation.

Some contracts have even been designed so they could be contested, for the financial gain of the attorney.

This court decision may fall in this category.

So find a constitutional lawyer who will read into the decision that the federal government MUST, since the state of AZ cannot, enforce the immigration law as written by Congress.

[GOPJ]

Arizona citizen could vote to have ALL citizens 'show their papers'. Do it for a year. For traffic stops and random road blocks.

That way illegals could be caught and no one's 'civil rights' would be violated as everyone is treated the same...

Scoutmaster - do you think this would work?

[AngelesCrestHighway]

More Conservative Supreme Court justices is the only answer...GET RID OF OBAMA!

[Kaslin]

and get rid of the rats in the Senate and the House

[Scoutmaster]

The Constitutional law question is ‘above my pay grade,’ GOPJ. As a practical matter, however, I don’t know that the public’s willing to ‘show their papers’ on a regular basis, much less whether the manpower and budget is available.

[trebb]

After a night to think about this, it seems to me that Roberts has sided with piece-mealing decisions so that everyone gets something. That’s a political template for deciding court cases. It’s troubling, of course, with ObamaCare. It argues that the mandate will be struck down and maybe a few more provisions of it, but that plenty (most) of it will be left intact.

You echoed my latest fears - cutting a big toe off the monstrosity instead of eviscerating it.

[GOPJ]

I think the people of Arizona are so fed up with illegals that they might be willing to vote a situation where they 'show papers' for 18 months... All citizen. Put up road blocks everywhere...

If the State doesn't do that - make it the same for all people in the State - Holder will sue the first time he thinks someone was asked BECAUSE he's Hispanic...

We know liberal elites want illegals here - we know they don't respect the law - there's got to be a way to stop them from forcing illegals on us.

[GOPJ]

Even though the Arizona law requires that race not be a factor in any police actions conducted under the law, MSNBC's (MSDNC's) Chris Matthews calls that section of the law "the requirement that cops stop people because they look a certain way."

Matthews is right on this - cops can't pick out certain people... it's against the law. But with my idea, that wouldn't be happening. They would check out everyone along a certain road - or every 5th car... something NOT race based. But can people vote away their rights? Or is that a right? You don't have to answer -I get the 'above pay grade' but you have a good feel for the law... well, better than that...

[Terry Mross]

AZ should start a “catch and release” program for all felony warrants. All law enforcement in AZ should be told that if they pull someone over that’s wanted on a felony warrant to bring them to a holding center. Then they will be taken to the state border and released. Then the feds will be notified that they had their man but let him go the day before. And don’t tell them which state line they took them too.

Bottom line is obama has chosen one law he doesn’t want AZ to help enforce. AZ should tell him they believe choosing one law over another is “prejudiced” against all the other criminals and they don’t want to be accused of showing favoritism.

[Texas Songwriter]

I keep have Fort Sumter running through my mind. Obama decrees he will not enforce federal laws. If Jan Brewer says I will protect the citizens (as she is sworn to do) from invasion and puts the national guard on the southern guard of her state and does not allow people to enter her sovereign state. Obama has said, No! I will not allow this. Now the question becomes will the US Marines and Army and Navy and Air force fire on American citizens in the National Guard. I have not one centilla of doubt that Obama would issue the order. The question becomes one for the US military leadership.

That is far fetched, but the invasion has already put Phoenix on the map as the kidnapping capitol of the world. (next to Mexico City). Now Obama has opened the flood gates, with his good will extended, to any maurader, militant, terrorist, theif, rapist, murderer, or anyone who has designs to reconsitute Mexico 1500.

Brewer does have the right and duty to call up the National Guard. The invasion has been going on for many years. Now the escalation is certain. What other options does Brewer have? This would set up a Fort Sumter scenario. And Obama has always fancied himself as a Lincoln-wannabe. This is quiet the pissing contest the Supreme Court has set up for us. Thanks for trashing the Precious Constitution. All in the world you had to do is be faithful to the Constitution....and you would not.

[Nowhere Man]

I mean, like how would Canada feel if Barack Obama had pamphlets on how to sneak into Canada printed and disseminated across the USA???

They would be making such a ruckus at the UN and everywhere else and rightly so.

[Nowhere Man]

We’ve seen some feeble promises out of Mitt Romney to do such things as excuse all 50 states. Which he might or might not do, but you gotta know that Obama would assuredly never do.

Yeah, I know Romney was not my first choice, but at least he is not an America hater or destroyer like Obama is.

[Nowhere Man]

You echoed my latest fears - cutting a big toe off the monstrosity instead of eviscerating it.

By doing that, you just make the monster angrier.