Arms bill supporters fight claims US citizens will be robbed of guns

The Hill ^ | 6/24/12 | Julan Pecquet

[Libloather]

Get to the border. Holder is givin' 'em away.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

[Jonty30]

Thin edge of the wedge.

[WildSnail]

If it wouldn’t impact the U.S., why do they so desperately need us to sign on? If other countries have weak laws, get them to change their laws. Leave us alone.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

“The United Nations, with the Obama administration’s blessing”

All you need to know.

No, No Way, and Hell NO!

[Czar]

We need the names of each and every politician supporting this un-American “treaty”. I don’t trust the UN nor the vast majority of politicians. The jackwagons in the Senate who think this is a wonderful idea need to review what recently happened to RINO Richard Lugar for his support of such anti-American atrocities as the LOST treaty, another UN attenpt to attack American sovereignty.

[2ndDivisionVet]

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts

[RobertClark]

Thirty years ago, I distinctly recall being told that we must oppose communism and the nations that support it. We were told that communist regimes were bad because they stiffled the rights of residents for the sake of the ruling party, forced them to go through checkpoints, forbid ownership of firearms, oppressed private property rights, did not believe in the free markets, and placed the needs of the state above the needs of the people. We were proud Americans, because none of these things limited us.

Fast forward to today. We have morphed into that which we were told we opposed. So, were we lied to then or are we being lied to now? What did we oppose in the cold war? Someone remind me, or better yet, someone remind our new ruling class.....................

[willyd]

That was exactly my thought...if we already have tougher standards in place then just have those other countries change their laws.

[dragnet2]

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate who was man enough to aggressively call for the eviction of the United Nations Headquarters in New York, and say the U.S. will activity seek to withdraw it's membership upon taking the oath.

Would Romney do this?

We'd have better luck juggling flaming chain saws.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

They keep harping about other countries not having gun control laws, so they need international gun control laws, yet say these won’t impact American law.

This is not just one bad argument, but two. If other countries do not have gun control laws, that is within their own national prerogative, not the international communities. If these nations leaders can’t or won’t try to change their own laws, why are they seeking a backdoor to their own nation’s lawmaking process?

And exactly how is the US, that also does not have a gun control regime, different from those other nations that do not have one? If it applies to them, it would appear to apply to us.

Those tyrannies, dictatorships, and bureaucratarian elitist regimes that do have gun control have long proven that it is not just a bad idea, but an *awful* idea. And everyone else adopting the bad idea will never make it a good idea.

[familyop]

"Arms bill supporters fight claims US citizens will be robbed of guns"

Firearm and Ammo Vendors Cut Inventories and Hike Prices Again

"Some lawmakers aren't buying it."

Nearly all lawmakers would vote against it. And no, a president can't outlaw firearms by himself. All who perpetuate such myths are wishing that it could happen.

[familyop]

As for the UN, BTW, get the USA out of the UN. Let the third-world dictators keep their evil laws in their own tourism regimes.

[ExGeeEye]

Sell the UN building to the NRA and GOA for office space.

THen rename the ground-floor entrance area—

(wait for it)

—the Gun Lobby,

[GenXteacher]

US out of the UN, UN off US soil!

[skinkinthegrass]

"Nearly all (House of Representatives) lawmakers would vote against it."true...but unfortunately; pResident O'Bozo, who despises the US Constitution
can sign it and he needs (only) his US Senate clowns to approve it..
it's a international treaty

[skinkinthegrass]

that said; I don't if NGO (the UN), would qualify as a separate country...
it's just a Socalist organization.

[familyop]

I doubt that a majority of the Senate would sign it, as political demographics currently stand. Even most Democrat voters are now in favor of the Second Amendment.

IMO, favorable, pro-Second-Amendment political conditions will continue, as long as imports and sales of cheap, semi-automatic rifles favored mostly (not all) by slum dwellers and other lefties continue. Not knocking AK variants here, but defending imports (including cheap ammunition) is something to think about for political public affairs.

If vendors tighten-up, price up or are outlawed on those kinds of imports and sales, then watch out. More Democrat and many Republican voters will turn back to favor anti-Second-Amendment laws sooner. Remember the year that the AWB was passed and who was in political offices.

[familyop]

"that said; I don't if NGO (the UN), would qualify as a separate country... it's just a Socalist organization."

Yes, it is a socialist organization (even SoCal-ist...heh, little jibe at California politics there).

[SaraJohnson]

Fast forward to today. We have morphed into that which we were told we opposed. So, were we lied to then or are we being lied to now? What did we oppose in the cold war? Someone remind me, or better yet, someone remind our new ruling class.....................

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The elitists are taking on the dark aspect of our latest enemies next. We are going to slave under Shria. Homeland inSecurity has already named Americans the real terrorists they fear and view Christians as the equivelant to Islamic jihadists.