1 posted on
06/24/2012 3:11:11 PM PDT by
SmithL
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To: SmithL
Well, the solution is obvious. Increase taxes./s
2 posted on
06/24/2012 3:19:24 PM PDT by
Signalman
( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
To: SmithL
I heard these liabilities were approaching $900 billion for California alone.
3 posted on
06/24/2012 3:21:54 PM PDT by
4Liberty
(88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
To: SmithL
Looks to me like those stingy 1%’ers just aren't paying their fair share. /s
It takes brotherly caring financially to support a communist state.
4 posted on
06/24/2012 3:30:17 PM PDT by
EGPWS
(Trust in God, question everyone else)
To: SmithL
Obviously, social security or any retirement program should never be privatized. Government knows best how their money er your money should be invested.
To: SmithL
Obviously, social security or any retirement program should never be privatized. Government knows best how their money er your money should be invested.
To: SmithL
Obviously, social security or any retirement program should never be privatized. Government knows best how their money er your money should be invested.
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and congess decided that they couldn’t have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They’re dicating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
10 posted on
06/24/2012 3:41:50 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and congess decided that they couldn’t have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They’re dicating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
11 posted on
06/24/2012 3:49:26 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and congess decided that they couldn’t have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They’re dicating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
12 posted on
06/24/2012 3:49:39 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and congess decided that they couldn’t have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They’re dicating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
13 posted on
06/24/2012 3:50:07 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and Congress decided that they couldn't have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They're dictating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
14 posted on
06/24/2012 3:52:34 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and Congress decided that they couldn't have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They're dictating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
15 posted on
06/24/2012 3:52:54 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
So much for retirement. I work for the railroad, and our retirement is completely separate from social security (it actually pre-dates it, so the feds left it alone, until recently). We pay into our own pension fund at a higher rate than SS, around 11% off the top of our paychecks. There is no employer match, and the plan is fully funded by the railroad employees. This system worked just fine for 80 or so years until paul ryan and Congress decided that they couldn't have a competitor to the SS piggy bank. They're dictating to us when we can retire, how much we can receive, and how much they want to put back into government control through SS. If this happens, your 401k, IRA’s, and other retirement plans will be up for grabs by the feds. If the feds can break a contract with the railroad, they can break any contract they want with impunity.
16 posted on
06/24/2012 3:53:32 PM PDT by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: SmithL
Interesting to see New York State in a surprisingly strong position on that graphic. For all the justifiable criticism of New York as a leftist "blue" state, it actually has a well-managed pension system under the state comptroller's office.
Future retiree medical insurance costs are another matter entirely, though. I understand New York is in terrible shape on that front.
19 posted on
06/24/2012 4:00:36 PM PDT by
Alberta's Child
("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
To: SmithL
Interesting to see New York State in a surprisingly strong position on that graphic. For all the justifiable criticism of New York as a leftist "blue" state, it actually has a well-managed pension system under the state comptroller's office.
Future retiree medical insurance costs are another matter entirely, though. I understand New York is in terrible shape on that front.
20 posted on
06/24/2012 4:01:16 PM PDT by
Alberta's Child
("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
To: SmithL
22 posted on
06/24/2012 4:17:56 PM PDT by
familyop
("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
To: SmithL
Public sector pension funds.
It would be illegal for private sector pension funds to do this.
To: SmithL
Just wondering....how much of these projected costs are due to obamacare....
24 posted on
06/24/2012 4:35:58 PM PDT by
bike800
To: windcliff
26 posted on
06/24/2012 4:59:27 PM PDT by
onedoug
To: SmithL
Glad I’m a Federal retiree!
27 posted on
06/24/2012 5:00:46 PM PDT by
Poundstone
(A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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