Cries of Cover-Up in Possible Vote on Attorney General (Reuters primer on Fast and Furious)

Desking is probably reviewing to make sure that even in all this bad news, Obama and Holder don’t look so bad and Issa and the Republicans look like rabidly partisan whiners.

Interesting. When ?I went to the link it showed 9 comments. I wanted to read them, but,,,, when I clicked on “Comments,” there were no comments! Guess they might have been getting reamed?

This is not a pleasant topic but “Fast and Furious” is growing legs and this is bigger than Watergate.
This is the best commentary I have seen on the topic. It draws the conclusion that the MSM has no shame and goes over a lot of facts that one might not be familiar. This is very provocative and is not for the ostriches out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIpoL3jrfo

I believe that this needs to be vigorously investigated. If President Obama is involved in the decision, Obama needs to be impeached. Holder needs to go to jail until he delivers the documents to congress. If Holder is guilty of being involved in this, he needs to be put on trial and convicted of murder.

Review form Amazon Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and the Shameless Cover-Up [Hardcover] Katie Pavlich (Author) Everyone must read this book!, April 5, 2012  By Aeronaut This review is from: Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and the Shameless Cover-Up (Hardcover) Everyone must read this book! It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat or Republican, whether you believe in more or less gun control, or are conservative or liberal. Government scandals such as this must not be allowed, especially when they cost people their lives. Reading this book will cause you to experience a wide range of emotions. You feel sadness and frustration at the situation surrounding the death of Agent Brian Terry. This is followed by disbelief and outrage as the facts are presented regarding Operation Fast and Furious. Most shocking was seeing proof as to what the administration, at the highest levels, is doing for political purposes. It is frightening to realize, as the book points out, the incompetence, deceit and unlawful behavior with which the current DOJ and other government agencies operate and the great lengths they will go to cover it up. I was appalled to learn of their lack of concern for human lives. I had to ask myself while reading the book, “Could this really have happened?” But the facts and sources are thoroughly documented throughout the book to prove its validity. The introduction by an ATF Special Agent sets the tone for the book in a realistic manner. After finishing the “body” of the book, don’t put it down until you have looked at the appendices. There is a helpful timeline of events and further proof of the administration’s efforts to conceal the truth.

On May 2, 2011, Weich wrote Grassley again, telling him that Operation Fast and Furious did not knowingly permit straw buyers to "walk" guns into Mexico.

That's funny. Here are the testimonies, under oath, of four ATF field agents who say they did exactly that. They are not the only ones.

The Department of Justice ’ s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents
Agent Casa recounted a similar situation. He had also never heard of, nor seen, guns being allowed to walk until he got to Phoenix:
. . . . But from the time I started as an ATF special agent . . . up until the time I got to Phoenix, that was my understanding, that we do not let guns walk, absolutely, positively not. And if we –if ever a case [where]we would do that, there better be a really good explanation why we did not grab that gun when we could.
Q. But that changed when you came to Phoenix, I mean the practice at least changed, correct?
A. Yes.
(snip)
As Agent Dodson testified:
Q. Based on our training and experience, what did you think about [walking guns]?
A. It was something I had never done before, sir. And quite frankly, I took great issue with it and concern.I felt like I understand the importance of going after the bigger target, but there is a way to do that. We did it successfully in the dope world all the time. And those skills and practices that we used there, a lot of them transfer over, and more than applicable in gun trafficking investigations, but we weren’t allowed to use any of them.
Q. And did you ever have a recollection of sharing your frustration with Special Agent Casa?
A. Oh, yes, sir.
Q. And any other special agents that you can –
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And maybe you could just tell us what other agents you –
A. Pretty much everyone, sir. It was, I shared my reservations and concerns with Special Agent [L], with Dave Voth, with Special Agent [D]Special Agent [H], Special Agent Alt, Special Agent [P], several of the special agents that came on the GRIT, G-R-I-T. The gunrunner initiative is what it stands for. I shared them with or I voiced my concerns to other agents inside the Phoenix field division that was on other groups.
(snip)
Despite this e-mail, agents continued to experience dismay and frustration as Operation Fast and Furious continued along its perilous path. As Agent Casa testified:
Q. And is it fair to say that. . .the folks on your side of the schism wanted to do everything they could to interdict these weapons so they wouldn’t get any farther down the street than they have to?
A. Yes, sir. We were all sick to death when we realized that –when we realized what was going on or when we saw what was going on by the trends. We were all just, yes, we were all distraught.
The rift widened when the Assistant Special Agent in Charge (ASAC) authoritatively and unambiguously told Group VII that guns were not being walked, that the special agents were incorrect in their terminology, and that there would be no more discussion or dissension about this topic. Agent Dodson testified:
A. Then we get an e-mail that . . . there is going to be a meeting. [the ASAC] is coming down, [the ASAC] comes into the Group 7 office and tells us essentially we better stand down with our complaints, that we didn’t know what the definition of walking guns was, we weren’t familiar with the Phoenix way of doing things, that all of this was sanctioned and we just needed to essentially shut up and get in line. That’s not a quote, but that’s the feel of the meeting, so . . .

THANK YOU!!!! WORTH REPEATING.

...it is never the original offense that leads to trouble. It is who knew what and who said what that powers the probe and brings forth the cry of cover-up.

If it starts with a lie, I don't waste my time on it.

Desking=propagandist. Gotcha.

See you in the morning.

You’re spot on...

“I think the original offense is the bad thing in this case.”

Exactly.

They are trying their best to say it’s the coverup, when this is about allowing guns to be sold to murderers to kill Mexican citizens so they could continue their campaign against guns in this country. Removing guns from the population in the first step in government control of the masses. They just didn’t expect that the guns would be traced back to the murder of border patrol agent,Brian Terry, and possibly the murder of ICE agent, James Zapata.

Murdergate is an appropriate name. We don’t know how many innocent Mexicans were killed.

Thank you for posting this. I heard that some of the agents were even trying to do surveillance on their own time.

From this testimony alone, someone should be going to jail.

Yes, at least one of the ATF field agents bought his own electronics off the shelf and tried to rig a radio sending unit into one or more guns but the batteries failed. Or someone found it or it went out of range. I don't know how anyone could have determined exactly why it quit sending.

At any rate he did it on his own because it was incomprehensible to him that they should let guns walk. As it would be to anyone with half a brain and a conscience.