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Hmmmm........ I'm having a hard time believing some of these poll numbers. But, we must remember that if Obama has 46 percent and Romney has 42 percent, that means that 12 percent are undecided and the undecided vote, historically, always goes for the challenger.
1 posted on 06/22/2012 3:26:21 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
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2 posted on 06/22/2012 3:28:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

It also seems somewhat biased to claim that Wisconsin has flipped when you are comparing two polls by different polling groups. Who knows what methods and biases account for the difference between the polls. You can only claim a flip if the same polling group shows it has flipped.


3 posted on 06/22/2012 3:30:51 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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That’s some serious cherry picking to produce that article narrative. They point toward Rasmussen in Wisconin, but immediately counter it with a much less formidable poll showing the opposite. Then, they use Quinpiac in FL, ignoring other much better polls. Frankly there is no way Florida is in play if Wisconsin and Michigan are even close to going Republican.


4 posted on 06/22/2012 3:33:03 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Don’t forget the Bradley effect too.


6 posted on 06/22/2012 3:36:47 PM PDT by Armando Guerra
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Exactly! Obama can't get above fifty percent in WISCONSIN. Frigging WISCONSIN is a liberal Democrat state from WAYYYYYYYYYYY Back. He can't get above forty five Percent in MEEEEEECHIGAN. THE HEART OF MIDWEST DEMOCRAT UNIONISM. I mean DeToilet can't even save Obama in MEEECHIGAN! FLORFIDA is lost to Obama, he hasn't got a chance!
9 posted on 06/22/2012 3:42:21 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Polls are pure BS! And it they are right then one hell of a lot of Americans are plain stupid to want to live in a Country that is so screwed up.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by Logical me
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11 posted on 06/22/2012 3:51:19 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
Real Clear Politics June polling numbers

General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample MoE Obama (D) Romney (R) Spread
RCP Average 6/1 - 6/21 -- -- 46.6 44.3 Obama +2.3
Rasmussen Tracking 6/19 - 6/21 1500 LV 3.0 43 48 Romney +5
Gallup Tracking 6/15 - 6/21 3050 RV 2.0 45 46 Romney +1
Bloomberg 6/15 - 6/18 734 LV 3.6 53 40 Obama +13
Associated Press/GfK 6/14 - 6/18 878 RV 4.2 47 44 Obama +3
Pew Research 6/7 - 6/17 1563 RV 2.9 50 46 Obama +4
Reuters/Ipsos 6/7 - 6/11 848 RV 3.4 45 44 Obama +1
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 6/4 - 6/6 1152 LV 2.9 47 46 Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP 6/1 - 6/8 841 RV 3.5 46 42 Obama +4
FOX News 6/3 - 6/5 907 RV 3.0 43 43 Tie



Obama & Romney: Favorable/Unfavorable

Obama: Favorable/Unfavorable

Poll Date Sample Favorable Unfavorable Spread
RCP Average 5/23 - 6/18 -- 51.6 44.0 +7.6
Bloomberg 6/15 - 6/18 1002 A 55 42 +13
Pew Research 6/7 - 6/17 1563 RV 50 48 +2
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 6/4 - 6/6 1152 LV 45 43 +2
FOX News 6/3 - 6/5 907 RV 54 42 +12
Gallup 6/1 - 6/4 2069 A 52 43 +9
CNN/Opinion Research 5/29 - 5/31 1009 A 56 42 +14
ABC News/Wash Post 5/23 - 5/27 RV 49 48 +1

Romney: Favorable/Unfavorable

Poll Date Sample Favorable Unfavorable Spread
RCP Average 5/23 - 6/18 -- 42.9 43.1 -0.2
Bloomberg 6/15 - 6/18 1002 A 39 48 -9
Pew Research 6/7 - 6/17 1563 RV 41 47 -6
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 6/4 - 6/6 1152 LV 38 37 +1
FOX News 6/3 - 6/5 907 RV 46 42 +4
Gallup 6/1 - 6/4 2069 A 44 42 +2
CNN/Opinion Research 5/29 - 5/31 1009 A 48 42 +6
ABC News/Wash Post 5/23 - 5/27 RV 44 44 Tie

13 posted on 06/22/2012 3:53:34 PM PDT by deport
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We are 6 months out. Many people ( the few that can afford it ) are in vacation mode.

Still in many circles people are not focused on this, in fact even those on "our side" do not want this cycle, they know how ugly it will be, but they will vote.

With that said again it is 6 months out, and Obama is even or behind for all intensive purpose.

We still don't have the Romney Convention Bump, and the "big mo" is not in Obama's favor, and I don't see how he turns it around...

I don't see how they can spin it, I think he is deep doo-doo and the Dem/DNC wonks know it.

I went to that site "Glenn" talked about today, I came up with Romney @ 309 electorial and that is with 2 States Undecided.

I have become a bit of an armchair predictor with a decent record. I am not saying it is a shoe in, but the down-ticket and Senate gains will be huge.My gut tells me it will take the Dem's 20 years to recover from this cycle.

16 posted on 06/22/2012 4:06:49 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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I would like to officially start the rumor that ILL-ANNOY is in play for Mittens, and Mr. Soetoro is down by 3. Any takers? Otherwise, might as well stay home.


25 posted on 06/22/2012 4:52:25 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Lost me 100% when they said Florida is leaning obama.

No way - we are going to toss him out on his butt.


31 posted on 06/22/2012 6:18:27 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Okay let's go through this again: Obama is NOT winning a single group he did not win in 2008 - with me so far? He is NOT doing as well with ANY group he did win and that includes Blacks Jews and women. Now where are the voters these polls are talking to coming from? I don't believe Obama is even within 8 points nationwide. These polls will get worse as the summer moves along and NEVER get better just as what happened to House Democrats in 2010.
35 posted on 06/23/2012 5:14:09 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Marquette poll=liberal biased


38 posted on 06/24/2012 6:09:31 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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If Michigan is polling within 1-2 points in any poll that is reputable, Obama is toast.

Undecideds break 80-90% or more to the challenger... I am not worried about November, fight hard, don’t get lazy or complacent, but its not going to be close guys.

By October, the discussion won’t even be about the Presidential race, it will be whether the Republicans will get 60 seats in the Senate. Obama’s loss will be all but a foregone conclusion other than some propped up drama to sell papers and get ratings.


40 posted on 06/25/2012 8:40:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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