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President Obama changing the rules on illegal immigration (O'Reilly: "...the new policy is humane"
Bill O'Reilly.com ^ | 6/15/2012 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 06/16/2012 11:44:08 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

O'Reilly: "... How can you blame kids when they're dragged to the USA from wherever? If you're a fair person you can't. It's not the childs fault immigration laws are broken, it's the parents who did it; thus the new policy is humane..."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; billoreilly; democrats; elections; foxnews; hispanics; illegalimmigration; latinos; nospinzone; obama; oreilly; romney
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The only reason I am posting this is twofold: to guage what people here think of what O'reilly has said and to get their opinion on this, and put forward the following: does Romney think that the new policy is humane, in addition to what he has already said since Obama's speech on this. As far as I know, Romney has not specifically said if he believes the new policy to be humane or not.

I wonder if Romney will converge with Rubio who said that the new policy is a welcome change, in addition to the other things that Rubio announced concerning this.

1 posted on 06/16/2012 11:44:17 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

This video is not the big one at the top. It is just below it - second one to the right.


2 posted on 06/16/2012 11:45:45 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Tell an unemployed person ineligible for Unemployment benefits it’s humane.


3 posted on 06/16/2012 11:46:25 AM PDT by BipolarBob ("These aren't the droids you're looking for.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Sorry Billy, they weren’t “dragged” here. Grow up.


4 posted on 06/16/2012 11:46:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

O’Reilly is a racist for thinking that being returned to Mexico is a bad thing or punishment of some kind.


5 posted on 06/16/2012 11:47:40 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I was channel surfing last night, waiting for the wife to come in from watering the plants. She wanted to watch Undercover Boss. I settled for O’Reilly (whom I haven’t watched in a couple years), for lack of anything else. Big mistake. He had Lou Dobbs on, and was giving this meme. I turned off the TV. That’s the last time I’ll entertain going to his show.

As for Romney, we’ll have to see, but I wouldn’t put it past him, unless he sees sufficient fallout to ward him off.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 11:48:52 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
More insipid spew from the loudmouth education major.

I expect Romney's reaction to be muted unless or until he has an alternative to offer.

7 posted on 06/16/2012 11:49:00 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Bill works from a false premise. The immigration laws are not broken. They are unenforced. He needs to explain in detail why they would be ‘broken’ when they are unused.

He is of course, an agendist, not a journalist.


8 posted on 06/16/2012 11:49:07 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If you read the construct framework of Obama’s conditions, you will find: Under 30, high school dipoma/GED or military, in this country for 5 years, lawful....that is effing it!

We’re not talking ‘children’ here, nor are we talking about those brought here with their parents- UNDER 30!.....

GED a problem? I’d bet my ass there will be GED diploma mills popping in every Mexican Tijuana sidestreet of America! (Don’t act like you don’t know they are there - every city in this country).

Lawful? Does anyone actually think the DOJ, who will administer this treason, is gonna check the NCIC or take finger prints? Don’t count on it one iota!

We are talking probably TENS OF MILLIONS, here not 800,000 or a million. This country is effed if it doesn’t throw that bastard out in November and get its sanity back.

O’Reilly the sexual harasser should think first.


9 posted on 06/16/2012 11:49:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

o’really hasn’t thought past his nose on this. Let the kids stay=let their parents stay. It’s a backdoor amnesty for any illegal with a kid.
It isn’t 800,000 who receive amnsty, it’s millions.


10 posted on 06/16/2012 11:50:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Whether it is humane or not humane or good policy or not - it doesn’t matter. That is a matter for congressional hearings and legislation to sort out and decide what our laws are. Congress’s role is to write legislation. A president can’t just decree legislation. It is unconstitutional.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 11:51:09 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: FlingWingFlyer

when O’Really said Obama’s move was “ Brilliant “ I had to change the channel , also sounded like he had a muzzle on poor Lou Dobbs


12 posted on 06/16/2012 11:52:44 AM PDT by molson209
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To: bcsco

I too watched O’reill last night, thus why I posted this.

I was curious what people here would think about this video.

And I also believe that we shouldn’t put it past Romney to do just about anything, and pivot/flip-flop on his stance on illegal immigartion that he took during the primary cycle.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 11:54:04 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oops.

Should say “O’Reilly.”


14 posted on 06/16/2012 11:54:58 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Can't believe people still watch television for news.

Political talk shows are nothing but political propaganda all regulated by corruptgov.

Other than live coverage of an event, TV is absolutely useless.

15 posted on 06/16/2012 11:56:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MestaMachine

Exactly what I was thinking.


16 posted on 06/16/2012 11:59:31 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well, I won’t watch the video because I refuse to give POS O’really a hit. I don’t give a hoot what that arrogant a$$ thinks.

As for Romney, it doesn’t really matter what he says, does or thinks, because his word is worthless.

Now for Obama... as far as I am concerned he has committed treason, AGAIN. But, in todays America, treason is no longer an actionable crime.


17 posted on 06/16/2012 12:00:12 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It would be “humane” to allow those in war-torn Syria, starving Ethiopians or oppressed Cubans to come here. Not smart. Not legal. Not fair. But Mexicans...this is for votes.

Obama is doing this for purely political reasons. O’Reilly is a HUGE moron for not seeing this.

Obama is bypassing the Constitution, a horrible precident to set. O’Reilly is an idiot for not seeing this.

Obama is adding millions of people to the labor market where there aren’t enough jobs. Is that “humane” to the unemployed in America?

These illegals will be paid wages that are way below market. Essentially a form of SLAVERY. Is slavery humane Mr. O’Reilly?


18 posted on 06/16/2012 12:01:08 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Gaffer
If you read the construct framework of Obama’s conditions, you will find: Under 30, high school dipoma/GED or military, in this country for 5 years, lawful....that is effing it!

So is '30' the new '26' for children? (Obamacare=26-parents insurance)

What about the illegal children that are 30 and 2 months? Barry is such a hater/.

I thought military service was an avenue to citizenship - which I'm in agreement.

19 posted on 06/16/2012 12:01:43 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: plain talk
Whether it is humane or not humane or good policy or not - it doesn’t matter. That is a matter for congressional hearings and legislation to sort out and decide what our laws are. Congress’s role is to write legislation. A president can’t just decree legislation. It is unconstitutional.

Exactly! It's not WHAT Obama did (though it was not a good thing either) but HOW he did it that's the problem.

20 posted on 06/16/2012 12:04:01 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This from the creme de crop at FoX News?

Is humane lowering the standard of living for all a noble cause?


21 posted on 06/16/2012 12:05:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Cut the humane crap...Obama just wiped his but with the Constitution for a few more illegal votes and Bill all you can say “Thats good”...Bill don't be a shlemazl


22 posted on 06/16/2012 12:06:07 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
You have to understand that, unlike Rush, BOR deliberately adopts opinions that are all over the map.

That way he appeals to all of the people some of the time.

BOR has no core values, other than audience numbers.

23 posted on 06/16/2012 12:07:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Get a clue O'Reilly...it's NOT legal. The President does not have the authority to implement this law change by executive fiat...only Congress has that power. This might be a humane thing to do, but it is up to the elected representatives of the people to decide NOT the President. Obama is doing an illegal end run around the Constitution and when this new power falls into the hands of the corrupt Departments of Justice and Homeland Security who knows who will be handed what amounts to amnesty.

If Romney was smart he should say this may be a reasonable policy BUT it must be duly passed by Congress as our Constitution requires not implemented by executive fiat.

24 posted on 06/16/2012 12:11:52 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
O'Reilly doesn't seem to care about the lawlessness of this lawmaking.

O'Reilly doesn't seem to care about the removal of Congress from the legislative process.

O'Reilly might as well be a marxist Democrat, for all he's worth.

25 posted on 06/16/2012 12:12:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: libertarian27

Not to mention that many of these illegals will have no ID. They can claim to be any age they want - as long as it’s thirty or under.


26 posted on 06/16/2012 12:12:22 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Bill O’Reilly has maintained his popularity (#1 on cable news) by cynically, arbitrarily and opportunistically reacting one way or the other to hot topics both the Left and Right are concerned with depending on his own private polling service. This lucrative and clever mendacity is his ideology, his living and his pride.

In other words, he is a talented fraud and I only listen to him to keep up with the bull crap his many fans are accepting—valuable political intelligence as it were.

27 posted on 06/16/2012 12:14:10 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Political Correctness forces people to say one thing and vote another.")
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To: kidd

Could not have said it better.

Maybe it’s “humane” once our borders are secure... until then it’s just incentive for everyone to race here seeking the same treatment.

“Amnesty” didn’t work in ‘86 ... what’s different now?

Also ... HOW do we graduate so many from public schools and let them into the military when they are ILLEGAL in the first place?


28 posted on 06/16/2012 12:14:43 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

O’Really isn’t really one of us. It’s a real hoot to watch the Left slam Fox, when guys like O’Really essentially back them much of the time.


29 posted on 06/16/2012 12:15:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
How can you blame kids when they're dragged to the USA from wherever?

O'Reilly's schtick is to play the role of the Oh-So-Reasonable middle-of-the-roader. He likes to set up a straw man and then bravely knock it down.

Blame isn't the issue.
No need to assign blame to the "kids" (if a 30 year old can still be considered a kid).

The blame for bringing the "kids" here belongs to the parents, but that's a moot point.

The "kids" (and the parents) have had a nice free ride in the USA on the backs of legal citizens.
Now it is time for them to leave our country and go back to their country.
If they want to re-enter the USA there is a legal process to do that already in place.
Let them take a number and go to the end of the line.


30 posted on 06/16/2012 12:18:42 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Let me get this straight.

I’m a racist because I want Hispanics to live by the same immigration rules that Australians, Europeans, Asians, and Africans live by.

The Left and it’s sympathizers here are not racists because they want special preferential treatment for illegal alien Hispanics.

Say WHAT?????????????????????????????????????


31 posted on 06/16/2012 12:18:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

All O’Reilly cares about it ratings.

He manipulates us all.


32 posted on 06/16/2012 12:19:06 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: DoughtyOne
It’s a real hoot to watch the Left slam Fox

It is!
On my local comment sites the liberals all scream "Faux News!" and I agree with them...shoots the wind out of their sails :>)

33 posted on 06/16/2012 12:19:36 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: libertarian27

LOL, good one...


34 posted on 06/16/2012 12:21:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

FoxNews is a lost cause...FoxBusiness is the only holdout that’s worth watching.


35 posted on 06/16/2012 12:22:18 PM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Its only “humane” if you’re a supporter of a certain democratic presidential candidate who is desperate to lock up this voting bloc.

Its all about power.

If barry thought he could win by launching these people back over the fence with a giant catapult he’d be there, in front of the TV cameras, pulling the lever himself.


36 posted on 06/16/2012 12:25:21 PM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What would have been humane would have been enforcing our nations borders and not allowing these parents to illegally drag their kids across our border. So the humane part of the action is already long gone. All the feds are looking for now is justification for their inhumane border enforcement.


37 posted on 06/16/2012 12:25:33 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I think Ted Baxter before he went on the air just calculated that he was due to be on barky's side tonight. It had been a bad week for barky and Ted had been critical of barky's many missteps. But Ted always tries to position himself as above partisan politics and completely balanced.

It could also be that he's trying to earn himself another interview with barky.

38 posted on 06/16/2012 12:26:22 PM PDT by rhinohunter (DraftWalkerNow!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The “Great Teacher From Long Island”, sycophantically utterred the rationale behind the words “anchor baby”!

I am a Nativist, and do not agree with O’Reilly.


39 posted on 06/16/2012 12:27:01 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Like millions of Americans, I don't give a rats patoot what Bill O'Reilly thinks about anything but he's totally out to lunch on this latest presidential usurpation of constitutional authority from congress. I expect this illegal act by Obama will be challenged by congress, as it should be.

As for blowhard Bill O'Reilly and his blathering about how 'humane' this act is, all I can say is, once you look into the ramifications, it simply demonstrates that America is soon going to humanely 'compassionate' itself into a third-world hellhole, which is exactly what Obama and the left think we should be (they'll be comfortably on top, of course, dictating to the huddled masses). Screw them.

40 posted on 06/16/2012 12:27:01 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Starve them out or deport them, all of the illegals!

Being humane is for suckers!


41 posted on 06/16/2012 12:29:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: mykroar

I watch part of FoxBusiness. Did you see FoxNews business discussion this morning? More than half the idiots were praising Obama’s illegal immigration move.


42 posted on 06/16/2012 12:30:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Then bring their parents up on child abuse charges.


43 posted on 06/16/2012 12:31:12 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Anc there is a reason it would be inhumane to return people to THEIR OWN COUNTRY? I swear we act like these pdople are imprisoned here. It’s not our fault, Bill.


44 posted on 06/16/2012 12:34:04 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
POS Obama just created new incentives for illegal immigration. Reward these law breaking and you will get more of it. This country is 180 degrees opposite of what it was 40 years ago. The POS low-life hack politicians in DC have not listened to the average Americans who have always been against our nation being innundated by the 3rd world. I am so angry! This place will be like Brazil soon with California getting there first
45 posted on 06/16/2012 12:34:49 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: All

If Dems really care about Mexicans then they should help them clean up their sh!thole of a country and make it free. Like the old west. It’s time to shoot on sight and hang the criminals so that freedom seaking people can build a nation.

BUT NOOOO, the Democrat party of today is now the Socialist party and chaos is their friend.


46 posted on 06/16/2012 12:35:37 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Liberating North Korea would also be humane

So forget the process of law- all it takes is an executive order from obama?

(speaking of humane, how about stopping 2/3 trimester abortion for the convenience of the mother?)


47 posted on 06/16/2012 12:38:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; xzins
If we want to be "humane" then we should give all these illegal aliens food, clothing, housing, cars, televisions and rocking chairs. That would be the humane thing to do. Let's not let any illegal alien feel unwanted or unappreciated. Give them everything!

Then get back to work, White Boy. We need your tax money.

48 posted on 06/16/2012 12:52:24 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I haven’t watched BOR in over 3 years and it took only a few minutes for me to remember why. Guess it will be another 3 years plus before I watch him again.


49 posted on 06/16/2012 1:01:11 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

O’Unreality is a self-absorbed, self-important, narcissistic SCHLUB. Which explains why he covers for Obozo. Birds of a feather and all that...

With the exception of my 6th great grandfather, John Carpenter (a neighbor, close associate, friend and revolutionary brother in arms of one George Washington) in my paternal grandmother Robinson’s family, my other English and German ancestors waited in sometimes years long lines, got on a hot, crowded, rickety ship, crossed the Atlantic and arrived at Ellis Island.

My wife’s English and Irish ancestors also waited in sometimes years long lines, got on a hot, crowded, rickety ship, crossed the Atlantic and arrived at Ellis Island.

There they were deloused, given a cursory medical exam, interrogated, their immigration papers checked and, with just what they were able to carry, took the ferry to the mainland to begin their lives as “Americans.” Those who did not have a complete grasp of English soon undertook formal and informal of the native language and the rest, as they say, is history.

That’s how it USED TO BE DONE.

The 14th Amendment, INTENDED by the drafters to ONLY grant citizenship to emancipated slaves by overturning the Dred Scott decision, has been tortured beyond recognition by the radical left to also include so-called “anchor babies” born to Latinas who stroll across the border to download junior HERE to bypass all the normal immigration processes described above. As an intern in a San Diego ER, my late niece caught many of those babies as part of her OB/GYN training.

By executive fiat, today Obama just took the first step to COMPLETELY open our borders (trust me, it is the first step only!) His action makes FOOLS of those who, like our great-great grandparents, played by the rules. It also makes fools of those waiting in those overseas lines to come here THE RIGHT WAY!!!

A wag declared that a nation without borders is NOT A NATION!!

A Latino “immigration lawyer” on FNN this morning said that if Congress doesn’t like it, they can change the law. He went on to say “THEY DON’T HAVE THE GUTS.” Sadly, he’s right. But if these clowns on Jenkins’ Hill think those latinos (legal and illegal) are going to vote for the GOP, they should be careful to not let their minds wander: They’re too small to be out alone.

Not that it would do any good, I called my congresscritters’ (202-224-3121) this morning to ask when they plan to offer Articles of Impeachment for this, the Law of the Seas Treaty, the activities of Holder, et al, the waste of taxpayer bucks on the green jobs idiocy, etc., etc. I’ll spare you the entire list as it runs to a few hundred pages. If impeachment is not their plan, I asked them to have the decency to RESIGN as the first branch of this government is clearly no longer needed and Obama could use the bucks saved to help buy the coming “election” or perhaps resume his taxpayer funded World Tour.

Bottom line? If you are STILL unconvinced that this guy is a clear and present danger to YOUR way of life, you probably live in a refrigerator crate behind a vacant warehouse. And if that is NOT your current living condition, re-elect this guy and it shortly will be.


50 posted on 06/16/2012 1:02:03 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (NOVEMBER 6th: THE END OF AN ERROR! Let us pray it's not the start of another!*)
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