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Holder agrees to give Issa internal emails on Fast and Furious, offers to meet
FOXNEWS ^ | 06/14/12 | Mike Levine

Posted on 06/14/2012 12:31:02 PM PDT by Doogle

Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday agreed to make what he called "an extraordinary accommodation" to Republicans investigating the botched "Operation Fast and Furious" by turning over department emails he has long insisted deal with internal deliberations and should be protected.

Holder is trying to head off a push by House Republicans to hold him in contempt of Congress for allegedly "stonewalling" their investigation. And he offered to personally brief the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., in the next few days.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdercontempt; holderemails; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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in the next few days......he's had a year. Guess those shredding machines will be working overtime. Two whistle blowers came forward, so the jig was up.
1 posted on 06/14/2012 12:31:14 PM PDT by Doogle
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To: Doogle
To hell with the charade. Vote already. And then indict.

Eric Holder should spend the rest of his sleazy life in prison.

2 posted on 06/14/2012 12:33:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Doogle

Issa, the ‘open government’ advocate, would be making a grave error if he agreed to a ‘closed-door’ meeting with Holder....

Anything he has to say needs to be said in open Committee, for all of us to hear....


3 posted on 06/14/2012 12:36:28 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Doogle

From his testimony that stated emails that contained the words “Fast And Furious” were not referring to “Fast and Furious” he cannot comply without calling himself a liar.

“Superior Knowledge” my butt


4 posted on 06/14/2012 12:36:39 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

offers to meet = let’s make a deal


5 posted on 06/14/2012 12:37:12 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle

Lucy is offering to hold the football for Charlie Brown again!


6 posted on 06/14/2012 12:38:23 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Doogle

If I were Issa I would say fine, but the vote on contempt is still going to be scheduled. Given your foot dragging and outright lies to the House anything that you give us now will be redacted or half of the story. You had your chance you blew it.

ROLL CALL...Make the bastard squirm.


7 posted on 06/14/2012 12:39:00 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Doogle

http://issa.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=597&Itemid=73


8 posted on 06/14/2012 12:40:16 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle
Two whistle blowers came forward, so the jig was up.

Yep. Now he's trying to limit his consequences for lying to Congress for over a year, giving weapons away to criminals, and his personal liability for the death of Agent Brian Terry.

9 posted on 06/14/2012 12:40:42 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Doogle

http://issa.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26&Itemid=70


10 posted on 06/14/2012 12:43:00 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle

Somebody must have described life in Leavenworth prison to Eric.


11 posted on 06/14/2012 12:44:09 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Holder has to be under oath....look what happened to the baseball player....


12 posted on 06/14/2012 12:46:24 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Doogle

They think we don’t notice the pattern: Stall...stonewall...stall...stonewall...win reelection...stonewall


13 posted on 06/14/2012 12:46:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Doogle

By definition a black democrat cannot be guilty of any crime. To say otherwise is racis[t]. Holder will never see the inside of a jail cell.


14 posted on 06/14/2012 12:46:29 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Doogle

Holder lied in front of a committee hearing. That is one act of Contempt of Congress.

Withholding the requested documentation is a separate act of contempt.

Holder should turn over the requested information, without any strings attached, so that he would receive some leniency on one count of contempt, but he should not receive any leniency for lying to the House Oversight Committee.

No deal.


15 posted on 06/14/2012 12:46:36 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Doogle

Holder maybe the next WH bus victim, question is how far will he go to protect Obama or will he cave in and give up the goods on the liberal messiah?

Prepare for plenty of casualties in the next several weeks, this is going to get bloody.


16 posted on 06/14/2012 12:53:23 PM PDT by PT57A
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To: glorgau

Yup another stalling tactic!

Same thing as neogiating with islam.


17 posted on 06/14/2012 12:53:38 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: kidd

He’s buying time while Dandy Dan Rather is “gathering up” some lost emails...


18 posted on 06/14/2012 12:53:55 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Doogle

HOLD HIM IN CONTEMPT!!! Do NOT back off now.

Officer, I’ll give you my gun now as long as you don’t charge me with that murder—that’s fair enough, isn’t it?


19 posted on 06/14/2012 12:55:13 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Uncle Ike

I hope Issa sees right through this. You are right, it needs to be said during an open committee hearing for the world to hear.


20 posted on 06/14/2012 12:55:51 PM PDT by toolman1401
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To: Doogle

In today's news CBS has found those long lost Justice Department emails from Eric Holder regarding "Fast and Furious" program of a misguided gun tracking scheme that saved Millions of American Lives.

21 posted on 06/14/2012 12:59:44 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Doogle
Office of Congressman Darrell IssaDistrict_Office 1800 Thibodo Road, Suite #310 Vista, CA 92081 Phone: 760.599.5000 Fax: 760.599.1178 Business Hours Mon-Thurs: 8:30 am - 5:30 pm Friday: 8:30 am - 5:00 pm
22 posted on 06/14/2012 12:59:52 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle

Does he believe “Lucy” Holder won’t yank the football this time.

“Lucy” Holder...hmmmm....there’s a cartoon in there somewhere....


23 posted on 06/14/2012 1:05:59 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: Doogle
Rep. Gohmert (TX-01) B-slaps Holder big time. Worth the six minutes to watch.

Rep. Gohmert Demands Answers from Attorney General Holder

Here is a petition to call for Eric Holder's prosecution.
Tea Party Petition to Prosecute Eric Holder

After signing the petition you will get an automatic way to send an e-mail to your Congressman and Senators. You can use their text or fill in your own.


24 posted on 06/14/2012 1:10:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: G Larry

"..did he just say 15-20....with new info coming forward....and Obama said Holder who?

25 posted on 06/14/2012 1:11:11 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
From his testimony that stated emails that contained the words “Fast And Furious” were not referring to “Fast and Furious” he cannot comply without calling himself a liar.

Maybe he's just a Vin Diesel movie buff.

26 posted on 06/14/2012 1:17:40 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: PT57A

Holder will never turn on Obama, because to do so, he would have to admit that his whole legal philosophy was a lie. Holder believes in everything that he does.

I imagine that Holder tells Obama what is going on and how he proposes to handle it and then just gets the go ahead from Obama.


27 posted on 06/14/2012 1:20:34 PM PDT by Eva
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To: MestaMachine
Holder agrees to dribble out some internal emails and offers to "personally brief" Issa. Didn't Issa just turn down a "personal" briefing offer from Holder?

"Issa's office said in an early response that Holder's letter "only seems to indicate a willingness to offer a selective telling" of key events and that the chairman is still asking the Justice Department to explain "how it is prepared to alter its opposition to producing subpoenaed documents""

28 posted on 06/14/2012 1:26:29 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Eva

It all depends on how far Issa is willing to take this, I know Holder is a delusional ideologue who believes his own stink but is he willing to die on the sword for Obama?

Could be, in any event, it still puts his goose in the oven.


29 posted on 06/14/2012 1:28:22 PM PDT by PT57A
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To: thouworm
Holder doesn't like being bossed around by a bunch of old white guys.... or anyone else, for that matter, but being told what to do by whites is likely really galling to him.

He is a bigot and an arrogant narcissist who is probably dumber than his boss Obama.

30 posted on 06/14/2012 1:32:19 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Doogle

Issa would be making a big mistake to give him the meeting. Besides the fact that he’s had more than enough time and the fact that he has behaved deplorably in his conduct before Congress, this is like the heavyweight boxer who is on the verge of defeating his opponent after fending off dirty tactics for the first 14 rounds, only to help the guy get up off the canvas right before the ref finishes the 10 count. Of course, the dirty fighter is going to take advantage of your magnanimous stupidity and hit you with a sucker punch below the belt.

In negotiating terms, Issa has the upper hand. Giving Holder a meeting creates the appearance that Holder has bargaining strength and credibility. Wrong, Wrong and Wrong.

Issa should politely decline and publish a letter to Holder saying that he looks forward to reviewing the additional emails being promised in the hope that the Attorney General has finally decided to fulfill his oath of office and his ethical duties as an employee of the American people. He should further state that Holder should make no mistake in thinking that anything but full compliance with the Congressional subpoenas will do.


31 posted on 06/14/2012 1:32:55 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Doogle

Is that all Issa requested, internal emails, I thought it was much more than that.


32 posted on 06/14/2012 1:34:25 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Doogle

What’s the use of heavily redacted internal emails?

Fool me once...shame on you. Fool me twice...


33 posted on 06/14/2012 1:44:47 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Doogle

Two things here. Either Holder is confident that he can hide the most damaging emails, or he is convinced that he can dribble them out in tiny lots — least damaging first.

I am totally convinced he has no plans to cooperate with Congress and is simply making a lame attempt to be reasonable so as to derail the contempt proceedings.

But, as you mentioned, the whistle-blowers have come forward, so Holder has no idea what they already have. If he tries to withhold the most damaging documents, Congress can mousetrap him.

Interesting...


34 posted on 06/14/2012 1:47:35 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Doogle

Thanks Doogle.

I just called his office.

I would urge other FReepers to do the same.

Keep the pressure on the politicians to do the right thing.


35 posted on 06/14/2012 1:47:47 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: PoloSec

it’s all about the dots


36 posted on 06/14/2012 1:54:32 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: PoloSec
...nobody knows cept Issa what the whistling blowers have...
37 posted on 06/14/2012 1:57:24 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Chode

ping


38 posted on 06/14/2012 1:58:29 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Ronin
you're correct, this is called a 'limited hang out'

If Issa were sincere he would not show weakness by agreeing to any meeting until he has receive ALL of the requested emails and documents - that's it

anything else just empowers Holder. Holder has been give ample opportunity

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39 posted on 06/14/2012 2:24:02 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: JewishRighter
exactly

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40 posted on 06/14/2012 2:25:34 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Doogle

So, in other words, Holder will be playing the Ahmadinejad to Issa’s Obama. Delay, delay, dribs and drabs.


41 posted on 06/14/2012 2:29:42 PM PDT by headless_thompson_gunner
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we’ll have to wait and see many more whistle blowers show up...


42 posted on 06/14/2012 2:34:45 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Elle Bee

Agreed. It’s a variation of the same tactic deadbeat tenants use to avoid eviction. Refuse to pay rent until the owner starts eviction proceedings, then pay as little as you can to stop them, then repeat.

Depending on the city and the local rules, an unscrupulous tenant can get by without paying more than two months rent a year. I have a friend who bought into an apartment building in Northern California back in the 90s. Give him two drinks and ask him about that kind of crap and he’ll give you chapter and verse.

The thing that angered him the most was that the local “community organizers” would gladly explain to anyone who listened, exactly how the process worked, exactly what to say to the judges or other officials, and exactly how to conceals assets and income so liens or garnishing attempts would be futile.

Sticking it to “the man” was a mark of pride. It’s no surprise to me that Holder is using the same tactics.


43 posted on 06/14/2012 2:39:56 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: PT57A

I hope the whistle blowers are kept safe and secret. If this gets out of control they will “Vince Foster” Holder and all the rest. Obama can never let him off the hook. Jarrett will call in the muscle.


44 posted on 06/14/2012 2:52:04 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Doogle

Thanks for the contact info - I’ll be calling momentarily.

If I could make a suggestion, it would be to splash that contact info across every article mentioning this story. Then email it to everyone you know.

Awesome thread.


45 posted on 06/14/2012 3:12:03 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Doogle
BURN HIM!!!
46 posted on 06/14/2012 3:15:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Doogle
Blink. Blink. Blink.


47 posted on 06/14/2012 3:43:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: PT57A; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; ..
If it was JUST oblama, holder would fold, but it isn't JUST oblama. This involves the clintons. One simply does not cross the clintons. It also involves the fbi, state department, dhs, cia, dea, et al.


48 posted on 06/14/2012 3:47:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: JewishRighter

How many raw fbi files does holder have on committee members? Or on every member of congress for that matter. SOMETHING held boehner down all this time. Remember whose water boy he was back in the day.


49 posted on 06/14/2012 3:56:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: thouworm

I don’t know about you, but every time I see the word ‘botched’, I want to tear my hair out. No one ever mentions the far reaching ramifications of this criminal op, but it is deep and it is wide.


50 posted on 06/14/2012 4:02:49 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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