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Congrats, America! Obama's officially made you second rate. You've lost your edge in science. The military will soon follow.
1 posted on 06/13/2012 8:16:55 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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This is stupid in both directions. I thought Europe was starving for funds and they can somehow waste money doing this??


2 posted on 06/13/2012 8:21:59 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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After all, seeing Mountain tops on distant Planets is much better use of the money that Europe doesn’t have.


3 posted on 06/13/2012 8:21:59 AM PDT by DAC21
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No problem. The Muslims will tear it down because it’s somehow an affront to them.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 8:22:40 AM PDT by lurk
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I thought Earth bound telescopes had problems with their resolution due to the atmosphere and light pollution no matter how big their mirrors are which is why I thought they placed Hubble in space?


7 posted on 06/13/2012 8:25:52 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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This will be about 1,534 inches in diameter--more than 7 times the width of the Palomar telescope which is 200 inches.

Chile is a good location--there is an area in northern Chile which is one of the driest places on earth, so rain and clouds don't interfere with observation.

No matter how big they make the telescope, they won't be able to see the mountains on Venus, the nearest planet.

9 posted on 06/13/2012 8:30:42 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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I believe there’s another even larger optical array type telescope that’s been under construction for several years. It will consist of something like 9 eight meter mirrors

My dream is an asteroid belt array and if I ever become a trillionaire I’ll build it and show you all up. an Ort cloud array would be even better.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 8:33:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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They’ll probably build it on the Acropolis.


14 posted on 06/13/2012 8:38:36 AM PDT by immadashell
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Why?


18 posted on 06/13/2012 8:42:32 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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I’m inclined to call BS on this proposition.

Back in the day, I recall extensive reading into the development of ‘optical’ telescopes that made clear the limitations imposed on the construction of lenses to function in a 1G acceleration field due to physical deformation of the lens affecting focus and image clarity.

I am not aware of advances in material science that suggest the feasibility of constructing a 39 Meter ( that’s ~130 Feet ) diameter lens mounted in a movable / steerable equatorial mounting structure as pictured in the posted article.

The ‘equivalent’ resolving and imaging capabilities are readily available from an ‘array’ of smaller lenses aggregated into a ‘virtual’ lens of almost ANY arbitrary dimensions. And a LOT cheaper to acquire / maintain.

Those Euroes sound, to me, like a bunch of lamers ...

One Man’s Opinion

21stCenturion


19 posted on 06/13/2012 8:42:58 AM PDT by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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"The European Southern Observatory project is supported by 15 members of the European Union ... and should hopefully come online in 2022."

The European Union may not survive 2012.

20 posted on 06/13/2012 8:43:19 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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The mirror inside the telescope will measure 39metres across - four times wider than today's biggest telescope -

That's a bit of a mis-statement.

Yes, it will be the largest single mirror but the VLT at Paranal in Chile has 4, 8.2 meter mirrors arrayed together into one logical unit. And it also utilizes 4, 1.8 meter auxiliary mirrors for a total surface area of 40 meters. Just edging out this new behemoth for total area.

21 posted on 06/13/2012 8:46:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (My dog, yes. My wife, maybe. My gun....NEVER!)
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This is what they really hope to see. Team leader is a guy called JT Kirk...


27 posted on 06/13/2012 8:52:38 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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Mars robots too complicated for them?

This is european saying they are still better than us?


33 posted on 06/13/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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These “scientists” still would not know Christ if He was standing in front of them.

They are just helping themselves to Other People’s Money.


38 posted on 06/13/2012 9:29:19 AM PDT by wizr (Keep the Faith!)
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Even a science dumbass like me knows they will not be able to “see” mountians on planets outside our solar system...

Got to give them credit for a heck of a sales job...


40 posted on 06/13/2012 9:36:43 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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I wonder how well this thing will hold up to earthquakes?


42 posted on 06/13/2012 9:50:38 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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The twin infrared/optical telescope will sit on top of a 3,060metre mountaintop, giving unparralled views of the sky above, and should hopefully come online in 2022.

Astronomers hope the observatory will help provide insights into the formation of galleries (sic) and the nature of black holes

Well isn't that nice....

perhaps they can see the light at the end of the economic tunnel...

As for the "balck holes" ...they just need to look a bit closer to home....(Greece...Spain...Ireland....Portugal....Italy....Iceland....etc....)

44 posted on 06/13/2012 9:52:48 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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Congrats, America! Obama's officially made you second rate.

when he dismantled NASA's mission of space exploration and directed it to develop an outreach program to the Muslims.

46 posted on 06/13/2012 10:15:02 AM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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powerful enough to see mountains on planets beyond solar..

But will be aimed at Christina Hendricks' bedroom window...

50 posted on 06/13/2012 11:07:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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