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To: HKMk23

The only absurdity here is yours.

If Luke ever did practice the pagan arts, it is certain that he would have ceased when the Holy Spirit filled him. It is equally certain that the great and learned apostle Paul would not have praised Luke for such practice, especially in light of Pauls views of the Athenians.

In your second paragraph, you seem to lose awareness of the fact that this is the word of God we’re talking about, not just a casual letter between friends. We can be certain that Paul was indeed speaking of spiritual matters, not pagan nonsense; this is not conjecture. Physician was not in any way an honorable profession at that time, so praise would have to have been for something else.

If you need clarification that the Apostles were acting in the proxy of the Holy Spirit, perhaps your Bible doesn’t contain the word Holy on the cover, or is this more immature sarcasm on your part?

Now as for your prattle on Mark’s clear remarks about the pagan healers, you need only re-connect with the fact that Mark was a believing Jew, and as such was well aware of the prohibition against turning to outsiders for healing or anything else for that matter. They were a people apart, by the commandments of YHWH. The word for ‘healer’ implied paganism on its face, and it was the choice of the English translators to cloud that issue, although they would likely have paid with their lives had they impuned the king’s knighted healers in their text.

So yes, God is a God of order, and he is working through his Holy Spirit to set the record straight, although not all who profess him seem ready for the pure light. It does take courage to take that step, but more and more of his elect are doing that in these changing and interesting times.

I’m going to ignore the foolishness WRT your attempt to impune useful tools as spiritually corrupting, as I do not believe you mean it.

Finally, God miraculously heals for his own glorification, not to relieve his children of the consequences of not following his instructions. Your healing is yours to take by eating the foods and herbs he provided; don’t hold your breath for unwarranted miracles.


64 posted on 06/19/2012 1:49:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I’m going to ignore the foolishness WRT your attempt to impune useful tools as spiritually corrupting, as I do not believe you mean it.

THAT is my ENTIRE point: trying to impugn useful tools as spiritually corrupting is FOOLISHNESS. And medicine, as we know and practice it in this modern age, IS nothing more than a useful tool in PRECISELY THE SAME WAY that automobiles and cell phones are useful tools. And YOU are foolishly impugning the useful tool of modern medicine, and — unlike my own foolish jesting — YOU REALLY DO MEAN IT.

Whatever the practice of medicine entailed in the First Century is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to what happens in modern hospitals and doctor's offices, no matter how you twist and squirm to try and dodge that reality.

You attempt to use the biblical text to impugn modern medicine; to back it into a corner and tar it illegitimately with the same brush used legitimately against the witch doctors of ancient pagan civilizations, and remote tribal peoples yet in existence, but you cannot cite clear biblical texts that support condemning modern medicine UNLESS you are able to also keep modern medicine imprisoned by its distant pagan roots; roots that ceased to be part of the medical profession a very long time ago.

So, first you unjustly shackle the modern practice of medicine to its very distant past, not allowing that it long ago abandoned the pagan trappings that rendered it unclean for God's people; then, having thus burdened modern medicine with the albatross of the very distant past that it left behind, you proceed to condemn it for wearing the albatross with which you yourself adorned it; and you assail it with scurrilous accusations relating NOT to the present, but to the distant past that medicine abandoned so very long ago; a past you stubbornly, unfairly, unjustly, REFUSE to believe that modern medicine has left behind, no matter that the fact is readily apparent to the universe at large.

The sum of your argument is, "Medicine was once a spiritually corrupt profession shot through with idolatrous pagan practices, therefore — all these centuries later, and in spite of all intervening discoveries, and developments, many of which were made by godly men and women — medicine is STILL a spiritually corrupt profession shot through with idolatrous pagan practices, and therefore no godly person may legitimately seek modern medical help."

You're contending that a huge, dynamic body of knowledge and practice involving hundreds of thousands of individuals worldwide, over hundreds of years remains corrupted in all quarters, and at all levels, by a past it abandoned centuries ago.

And I'm the one being absurd?

65 posted on 06/19/2012 5:46:37 PM PDT by HKMk23 (GOPe 2012 MITT HAPPENS)
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