Should be fun.
I will go myself if the romtards try to pass a communist platform.
LLS
In this case, go Santorum.
The Libertarians should try building up their own party and stop trying to co-opt the Republicans.
Is there a Ron Paul putsch under way?
World Net Daily ^ | 06/05/12 | Pam Gellar
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The Daily Beast ^ | March 2, 2012 | Ryan Prior
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Bless their pointy little heads............
Ron Paul and Rand Paul both claim to be prolife. We shall see.
I’m going as a Santorum delegate from KS, I can tell you that the Paul-een’s from KS aren’t as bad as elsewhere but many of the, want nowhere near a pro-life, pro-family, anti-drug policy that we agree on (which has been in place for decades.)
Ping
For libertarians they sure spend a lot of energy on telling people what to do. There already is a libertarian party, why are they bothering the GOP?
WaHOO!!! This is very good news!
Conservatives deserve a convention NOT a coronation.
A platform should mean something more than fish wrap, the non-binding treatment it gets now from the GOPE.
Conservatives have VERY much in common with Ron Paul’s approach to the truth of the Constitution, to fiscal responsibility, to the intrusive FED, diluted by scores of elections, where incrementally the Republican Party has so rejected our founding history and our founders themselves that we now openly find a socialist at the top of our ticket and lawlessness coursing through the land.
God help us against further acceptance for anymore swallowing of the bare bone Pavlov tosses us, in exchange for our never ending compliance and cooperation with the Establishment and their increasingly LEFT turn.
It is NOW or never. Paul will be a huge ASSET for the Republican platform, and for fiscal accountability that defends capitalism from the abuse.
His whacky stuff will slide off the table, but much of what he aims to offer is a target that needs to be hit in the bull’s eye.
Oddly enough, it is not the disagreements at the convention that matter, but the major intersections. This means that by agreeing with each other halfway, both end up getting more than half of what they want.
To start with, let’s look at the sticking points to see “how sticky” they are.
The thing about Paul that upsets most conservatives is his foreign policy that is both non-interventionist and wants to bring much of our forces home. But oddly enough, a lot of our military is deployed on frivolous and non-critical missions around the world, in some 100 countries. We need to be in about a dozen permanent stations, with the navy handling the rest.
Likewise, the Pentagon is as ridiculous with its budget in some ways as the state legislature of California. It needs to have its priorities straightened out so we are no longer buying $3b destroyers that can’t pass their sea trials.
As such, the Pentagon could be streamlined by hundreds of billions of dollars annually, yet give us a *more* effective military. I think conservatives would agree with that. In exchange, Paul gives up the “total isolationism” part.
Another problem is abortion, but not really. Paul is not pro-abortion, but is instead for leaving it up to the states as not federal business. Since most states are red states, the end result would be *less* abortion. No problem with that, either.
While Santorum is heavily law and order, he is fighting against the tide when it comes to drug decriminalization. The War on Drugs is an unmitigated disaster, and by downgrading it, at least by declaring “soft drugs” no longer a federal matter, the US saves tens or hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
Bottom line, though he *wants* to exercise federal power for social issues, most conservatives would be happier if he just left it up to the states and exercised *less* federal power. We all benefit with *less* federal everything.
Once over these issues, the areas of agreement are pretty broad, like ending Obamacare and the welfare state, reducing the size and cost of the federal government, etc.
Now if the two of them agree to use their delegates to block the onerous Romney, we are getting somewhere.
Paul will never get the nomination, nor will Santorum. But another conservative, a real conservative will have a very good chance on a second ballot.
Will someone explain to me how important the party platform really is?
Do any presidents or congress critters actually stick to it once they get in office? Seems to me its only purpose is to get out the vote. But does it really make a difference in what happens once the election is over and the winners have to actually govern?
IMHO this can only be good.
Romney has to know that the party, is not the liberal/socialist party
We have to (figuratively) beat it into his finely haircutted haid
The platform doesn’t mean ONE DAMN THING these days.
Back in the days when the only info voters had was The Party Platform printed in the local paper, it mattered a lot.
Today, it means absolutely nothing. All you have to do is look at the Dem/Repub Party Platforms for the last 30 years for that.
I really don't care about this kind of dog and pony stuff. I just wish they would stick to the Constitution.
Ron Paul scared hell out of me with his foreign policy ideas.
But otherwise, he sounded like a pretty solid Constitutionalist, most of the time. He often strays to the libertarian (e.g. anarchy) side of the ledger, but I’m not sure that’s such a bad thing. Are we FREE or not?
Remember, “liberty” means being freedom to do any damn thing you want, without government intervention. As in, LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE. Many things we take for granted as federally “controlled” and “illegal” should in fact be untouched by any federal oversight. (State oversight is another issue.) Limited government, anyone?
I’ll reserve judgement until I see the Ron Paul platform planks.
Of course, if Santorum wanted to play the delegate/platform leverage game, he should have stayed in, and collected more delegates.
So many of you berate Ron Paul like it's hate week in Orwell's novel 1984. And that's what they want. They want you to hate. Because it makes you weaker, and it makes them stronger. I can promise you the republicans and the democrats who spend the majority of their time flooding the media with hate is not your friend.
The republicans at the top don't want the republicans at the bottom to discover the truth in what Ron Paul has to say, because, at that moment, the communism which has been growing since the great depression will finally be stripped from the darkness it dwells in and thrown into the light. The tyrants will be revealed on top of their financial pyramids where they hide in secrecy, watching our moves and pulling our strings while most of us don't even realize we slave away everyday to put the power of the many into the hands of the few.
Everything is nationalized. All of our money goes up and up until the government, the corporation heads, and wall street possess the majority of currency. Not because they need the money but because our poverty ensures their power over us. These are people who ally with the mafia to protect themselves from them and us and support foreign trade to fatten their wallets and leave us with the change (I Suppose that's what Obama meant when he offered it to us).
We are a communist country. There is no in between. Just as Franklin would say, we have traded our liberties for securities by giving the government more power because it falsely promises change, but we deserve and will attain neither. Just as Washington would say, we have given our souls to political parties and now we will face our inevitable failure. And just as Paine said, “These are the times that try men's souls”.
Our government has been corrupted and Ron Paul is the only one trying to change it. Meanwhile, the republican party is doing nothing but joining the democratic party in trying to destroy him through hate and lies.
It's funny - in this country, it seems everything people are for, they are against, and everything they are against, they are for.
Floor fight!
I hope Paul’s delegate give Mitt-Witt a run for his money!