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Remembering Jefferson Davis: American Patriot & Southern Hero
Canada Free Press ^ | June 3, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 06/04/2012 6:00:58 AM PDT by BigReb555

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To: rockrr

“all except the southron slaveocracy “

There you go with your half truths and lies, again. The North also had slavery at the time. The North was built using slavery, and even their hero, Lincoln, didn’t want to end salvery or even allow freed slaves into his home State of Illinois. So, your hatred of the South is simply stupid, not ignorance because you know the truth but you still just want to bash the South. How childish.


101 posted on 06/06/2012 8:19:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: CodeToad

Northern abolition

Between 1777 and 1804, anti-slavery laws or constitutions were passed in every state north of the Ohio River and the Mason-Dixon Line. By 1810, 75 percent of all blacks in the North were free. By 1840, virtually all blacks in the North were free.[30] Vermonts 1777 constitution made no allowance for slavery. In Massachusetts, slavery was successfully challenged in court in 1783 in a freedom suit by Quock Walker as being in contradiction to the state’s new constitution of 1780 providing for equality of men. Free blacks were subject to racial segregation in the North and it took decades for some states to extend the franchise to them.[31]

However most northern states passed legislation for gradual abolition. As a result of this gradualist approach New York did not free its last slaves until 1829, Rhode Island had 5 slaves still listed in the 1840 census, Pennsylvania’s last slaves were freed in 1847, Connecticut did not completely abolish slavery until 1848, and slavery was not completely lifted in New Hampshire and New Jersey until the nationwide emancipation in 1865[32]

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102 posted on 06/06/2012 8:39:39 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: CodeToad
Secession isn’t something that needs to be proven. That makes no sense.

Secession is an act of a state. States must allow Congress to prescribe the manner in which a state proves its acts. This wasn't done.

If a state wants to secede they must run it through the Congress to find out how to prove their secession. If a state doesn't want to do this then the state better have the military might to make it stick. The latter was chosen and their military might was insufficient. It was their own fault.

Having a rabble-rousing meeting with a bunch of plantation owners was no way to prove secession. They should have ran it through the Congress to get terms of separation.

103 posted on 06/06/2012 5:28:56 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: CodeToad
In fact, contrary to popular belief due to public school system propaganda, Lincoln didn’t free the slaves, the 13th Amendment did.

Actually, Lincoln freed lots and lots of slaves.

As the Union armies crushed those of the CSA, all the slaves in areas controlled by the Union forces immediately became free. When the CSA finally caved in, all slaves in the country were free except those in DE (perhaps 100), NJ (possibly a dozen, the story is unclear) and KY (around 50,000). These were the only slaves freed directly by the 13th Amendment.

The other Union slave states (WV, MD and MO) had all freed their slaves by state action before the end of the war.

Now the 13th Amendment confirmed the end of slavery everywhere because it took away any chance of someone questioning the validity of the Emancipation Proclamation. But it directly freed only about 50,000 of the 4M existing at the start of the war. Lincoln freed at least 75% of the rest.

104 posted on 06/07/2012 1:35:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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