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To: Innovative

10 years ago, this was the same reason cited for electing him Governor of Massachusetts. “Why, he can turn the state around !” (nevermind he was proceeded by 12 years of left-wing RINO Governors just like him)

Well, he had 4 years to turn things around and guess what ? He left the state in even worse shape than he inherited it in, pushed through his WillardCare (cheap abortions, Socialist healthcare), leftist judges, gay marriage, and killed what was left of the MA GOP and handed the state off to his Democrat buddy Deval Patrick.

Now you bozos want to make this disaster President ? Looks like that’s an “epic fail.”


6 posted on 06/01/2012 10:29:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Now you bozos want to make this disaster President ? Looks like that’s an “epic fail.” “

But giving Obama a second term is a great success, right? (/sarc)

They would love you over at DU.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 10:33:42 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Your hate for Romney seems to be greater than your love of country.

You want another 4 years of 0bama.


8 posted on 06/01/2012 10:34:51 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It is impossible to reason with people who refuse to acknowledge the fact of Romney’s liberalism.
It wont matter if you show them hundreds of pages of information, they simply dismiss it as your delusion.
Romney is a liberal, he always has been and always will be. Liberalism is his core.


25 posted on 06/01/2012 10:55:22 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Oh really fieldmarshaldj. Mass state unemployment declined almost at an equivalent rate of the US. Check it out if you don’t believe me. But what I’d like to know is exactly what you would have done to take on one of the most liberal legislatures in the Union and accomplish more than Romney? Oh, you have no real solutions, just making postings from the comfort of your basement? BTW, no, I’m not in favor of government run HC, but I don’t actually hear SOLUTIONS from you. I’d really like to see your resume vs. Romney. Some thing tells me yours is a bit light. (And in case your curious, I haven’t voted for Romney — I voted for Newt in the primary.)


38 posted on 06/01/2012 11:36:01 PM PDT by BMCinSC
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well, he had 4 years to turn things around and guess what ? He left the state in even worse shape than he inherited it in, pushed through his WillardCare (cheap abortions, Socialist healthcare), leftist judges, gay marriage, and killed what was left of the MA GOP and handed the state off to his Democrat buddy Deval Patrick.

I hear people repeating these talking points all the time. My recollection of Romney's record as Massachusetts governor is much different than yours, and mine is backed up by the actual facts.

Romney didn't push through gay marriage. In fact, he opposed it vehemently and sought to implement a constitutional amendment for the state that would override the state supreme court's ruling that gay marriage was legal. While I don't agree with Romney's overall stance on gays, the facts on gay marriage support him as being very firmly AGAINST it:

As governor, Romney faced challenge on gay marriage (LA Times)

His record on judges also appears to be much more complex than a simple talking point. Remembering that he was governor in a state that is the deepest blue of all blue states, with only 12% of voters identifying themselves as Republican, he certainly wasn't going to get a Clarence Thomas or Antonin Scalia through the nominating process, not that he necessarily would have nominated judges of their particular ideology. I'm not arguing that he was a model of conservative consistency here, just that without some degree of pragmatism, a Republican governor of Massachusetts would never have had any judges confirmed at all. It does appear that Romney became much more conservative in his judicial appointments in his final year in office. Some would say that was because he was looking ahead to running for president, but it could also be because he was fighting an activist state supreme court and his philosophy on judges changed for the better.

A Look at Romney’s Judicial Philosophy: Conservative Reform in the Most Liberal State

As for "WillardCare" providing abortions, the healthcare law that Romney signed did not provide for abortion coverage. There was an independent board called the Commonwealth Connector that later added abortion coverage to the plans offered through the state healthcare exchange.

Deja Vu: The Latest Attacks from Santorum

Romney is not a perfect candidate, but in 2008, he was actually the "conservative" alternative to John McCain, once Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo fell by the wayside. His record as governor of Massachusetts is complex and deserves much more analysis than the simple talking points that you're attaching to it.

77 posted on 06/02/2012 4:28:40 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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