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To: Hotlanta Mike; TheCipher; little jeremiah; bitt; STARWISE; onyx; edge919; Fantasywriter; ...

What the HDOH is even more incriminating than not confirming the genuineness of Obama’s forged long-form.

Bennett was required to change the “wording” on his request before HI deputy AG Joshua Wisch would allow the HDOH to send anything at all. There were 2 parts of Bennett’s request that were changed:
1. the “wording” on this part of Bennett’s SPECIAL (non-application-form) request
2. Bennett dropped the form request altogether.

Addressing those 2 changes:

1. The wording change was so the HDOH would not have to verify that Obama’s forgery is genuine but WOULD confirm that the information in Obama’s forgery matches the information on their record. So what’s the difference then? Why did Obama have to forge a BC if the info was the same? Because there was MORE on the real record than he wanted people to see. Not more items, because his forgery had all the items normally on a LFBC. What was different? The real thing has stamps saying “LATE” and “ALTERED”, and a notation (right where the seal is supposed to go) of what evidence was submitted in support of a late and/or amended filing, and when. This conclusion is consistent with the claims of the HDOH, former OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama; Chiyome Fukino, and Gov Neil Abercrombie - AND makes sense out of #2 below.

2. The form request was withdrawn (at the demand of Joshua Wisch, presumably) even though it actually contained the items that pertain to presidential eligibility: place and date of birth and parents’ names. Why? Not because these items are off-limits to ask, obviously - because they are on the standard request form. But that’s the problem: they are a standard request for verification. According to HRS 338-14.3 a standard request for verification requires the HDOH to certify the TRUE facts of birth. And HRS 338-17 says that a late and/or altered BC is not legally probative - IOW, the claims on that BC are legally questionable and the State of HI cannot vouch for their accuracy. So the HDOH CANNOT verify the true facts of Obama’s birth. Onaka knew that, and as “client” of the HI AG’s office let them know that he COULD NOT respond to Bennett’s STANDARD request.

So they went with Plan B: Bennett’s SPECIAL REQUEST. The request that asked the HDOH to verify FROM THE RECORD ON FILE, 11 particular items. That, the HDOH could do. They verified that they have a record on file (never said it was legally valid, which it’s not) and that the record on file CLAIMS blah, blah, blah. In his certifying statement Bennett states that they are verifying what is sworn on the record on file.

There is a thread about this at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2887501/posts There’s more analysis in some of the comments there.

And I’ve got a detailed analysis (plus links to a bunch of supporting documenation and corroborating details) at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/hi-non-verification-1.pdf

We need to understand - and make known - the fact that Joshua Wisch required these changes to Bennett’s request to specifically accommodate the fact that Obama’s BC is late and amended and therefore legally non-valid.

I have sent an e-mail to Ken Bennett, noting that the info that actually pertains to presidential eligibility was on the standard request form, which he did not receive a response to even though he said he got what he had asked for. I asked him why he withdrew that request form. We’ll see what happens but I’m not holding my breath.


43 posted on 05/25/2012 8:00:02 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
In the Corsi interview, he also said Bennett is a Romney adviser. Not sure if anything is implied, more for disclosure.
44 posted on 05/25/2012 8:09:59 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: butterdezillion

This is pretty much the argument I was making when I said that it was HAWAII DOH that created the fake document. You have done a good job fleshing out the details of it.


50 posted on 05/25/2012 8:57:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: butterdezillion
We’ll see what happens but I’m not holding my breath

I'm long past holding my breath on anything to do with The Evil One.

51 posted on 05/25/2012 9:09:16 AM PDT by bgill
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To: butterdezillion

I think you are spot on, as usual.


53 posted on 05/25/2012 9:14:34 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: butterdezillion

>Why did Obama have to forge a BC if the info was the same?<

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Does that mean that we have a forger in the WH?


57 posted on 05/25/2012 9:57:32 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: butterdezillion
Thanks for the ping, Butter. Your analysis is excellent. HI acts paranoid schizophrenic on this issue, and you delineate exactly why. Props.

Here's something you and others may find interesting:

Donald Trump told Lloyd Grove that President Obama was born in Kenya, not the United States.

Said Trump: “That's the way life works... He didn't know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said... He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her she said, ‘Oh, I mean Hawaii.’ Give me a break.”

http://politicalwire.com/

Gotta agree w Trump on this one. Obama was attractive, as a wholly untried, untested ‘author’, to a high-powered literary agency only in part because he was president of the Harvard Law Review. The FACT that he was from Kenya is what sealed the deal/was the icing on the cake.

Added to which, Obama as much as told us flat out he wasn't born in HI when he said HI is in Asia. Sorry, Obots, that's just not the kind of mistake a native-born Hawaiian would make. It is, however, exactly the kind of mistake a Kenyan would make—especially one that spent his HS days enjoying alcohol, “weed, and a little blow”.

58 posted on 05/25/2012 10:17:53 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion

More great work, butterdezillion—thanks!


61 posted on 05/25/2012 10:46:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: butterdezillion
but WOULD confirm that the information in Obama’s forgery matches the information on their record.

Is Onaka lying when he says the information on record claims birth in Kapiolani hospital?

Certainly, there is good reason for questioning whether Barky was born in Hawaii:

1. At the time Obama Sr. signed an immigration status form on August 31, 1961 in Honolulu, he apparently had not even gotten word that he had a son born earlier that month. He did not list little Barky among his children on that form.

2. Stanley Ann was seen in Seattle by her friends with an infant in August 1961. Did she really fly from Honolulu to Seattle with a new-born? Or did she (1) unexpectantly have the baby in Kenya and returned by way of Vancouver/Seattle or (2) have the baby in a home for troubled mothers across the border in Canada?

3. Obama has fought for years from having to introduce an official birth certificate into evidence in dozens of court cases across the country.

4. The birth certificate posted by the White House appears to be electronically fabricated.

5. Obama apparently told his book publicist he was born in Kenya per their marketing brochure.

All that suggests that perhaps Barky was born somewhere else and granny Toot (or Stanley Ann) submitted an affidavit of home birth or some such document to make sure he would be an American citizen and they would not have to deal with the legal complications of having him in the country as a non-citizen.

But if that is the case, then why would granny Toot claim he was born in Kapiolani hospital rather than, say, at home? If they claimed he was born in a local hospital rather than at home then she can't just submit an affidavit of home birth and she would need to involve people from the hospital in the false claim.

Did Onaka stick his neck out by confirming that Obama's papers state a Kapiolani hospital birth?

63 posted on 05/25/2012 11:04:48 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: butterdezillion

...and I should add that when Donald Trump was looking into this, he claimed to have learned that there were no records in Kapiolani hospital relating to Barky’s birth.


64 posted on 05/25/2012 11:06:56 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for your due diligence....this type of work is out of me league.


78 posted on 05/25/2012 1:09:48 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: butterdezillion

Good post Butter. :-)

Jerome Corsi sounds very very exited that they “have proof” that Obama is not who he says he is, and he can’t come out with it until the Posse brief Arpaio when they get back from Hawaii. Nothing but life long fictional story. Corsi - “The proof is know conclusive.” “Forging identities” and people are going to jail in this cover up. Got to go for now.


79 posted on 05/25/2012 1:11:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion
I want to see Arizona use full faith and credit to get physical access to the public records of Hawaii. A person from Arizona needs to see it all firsthand.

No more documents certifying the existence of other documents. Arizona has Constitutional power. I'd like to see them use it.

-PJ

81 posted on 05/25/2012 1:15:55 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: butterdezillion

I’m trying to resolve in my mind, perhaps like many others, the real/true posture of Bennett in this matter. Was he a shill all the the time to make his efforts appear sincere? I have to believe there is something more sinister and diabolical going on with Obama’s history. Whatever it is , it is difficult to distinguish/separate the Chicago-Hawaiian thuggery individuals from the traitorous international groups/individuals such as Soros, U.N.’s Walker now in China, as well as international financial entities. That our own elected people such as McCain, Boehner, McConnell,Palin are oblivious or opposed to the honest, thoughtful doubts of many patriotic citizens is bewildering and disrespecting and indicates a force not apparent. I do believe that the efforts and digging by you and others such as Sheriff Arpaio and Dr. Taitz will someday break open this unbelievable conspiracy to change the USA from the Founders intentions.


84 posted on 05/25/2012 2:36:19 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for the summary.


92 posted on 05/25/2012 10:05:25 PM PDT by thecodont
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