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To: New Jersey Realist

You’re looking in the wrong place for a definitive answer to your question. The US Constitution is not written as some kind of law with attached descriptions of phrases.

Quit being lazy and look up Vattel, Law of Nations, 1758. Then search for the accepted description of what a natural born citizen actually is.

You must be new. We’ve been over this a million times

Start paying attention.


84 posted on 05/22/2012 9:37:03 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: atc23

I didn’t know I had to look up some Swiss philosopher to understand what the constitution tells me. Are you insane? You can’t assume something like that. The Constitution was written by well educated men who were well versed in English common law. If they had followed Vattel they would have used his words, not the words used by English common law. I’m sure you are familiar with the two words to which I refer. The whole universe KNOWS that the United States is Jus Soli. Jus Sanguine pertains to Americans born abroad.

You have absolutely NO PROOF that NBC requires citizen parents. It just ain’t there or anywhere to be found. What IS there are numerous court decisions that rule AGAINST you.

I have been following the threads regarding this issue and have yet to find convincing proof of your assertion that NBC requires two citizen parents. THE ONLY requirement for two citizen parents is if their child is born overseas and that is what confuses you people.

Tell me this. Suppose YOU want to run for president. How would you prove your parents are citizens? All you have is your birth certificate and I don’t know of many who can get hold of their parents bc’s. There is absolutely NO precedent for that neither. How would you know if you weren’t adopted? Some states (such as NJ) will never tell you that information. How do you know what someone put down on your BC represents the truth? Suppose the mother was not sure of the father. There is only ONE thing that your BC proves....and that is if you were born in the U.S. What if a baby was dropped off at the hospital, does that mean he could not run for the office of president? That is absurd to say the least.

This NBC issue pertains to less than 100 people throughout our history. It is of small significance when compared to the larger issue which is proving Obama was born in Kenya which would prove he is not NBC since his mother was of insufficent age to pass on citizenship.


143 posted on 05/22/2012 11:48:31 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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