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To: Mouton

I just don’t get this freeper meme that says if we had another candidate we would be up 65 to 35 over obama, instead of the 2 or 3 points Romney is up now.

Romney already thumped Newt and Santorum among Republicans, and it goes against all logic and common sense to say Newt or Santorum would be doing better with independents or conservative democrats than Romney is right now.

This 65 to 35 meme to me just sounds like sour grapes coming from freepers who still can’t get over the fact their guy or woman lost in the primaries.

Besides there is way too many minorities, gays, socialists wanna bees, and far left liberals that automatic rat votes for ANY republican to win 65% of the vote. The current demographics of this country just wont allow it.

There is not going to be any brokered convention. No 3rd party candidate is going to get more votes than Obama. The reality is republicans have one choice if they want to beat Obama and thats Romney.

I know some freepers feel that we would be better off with 4 more years of obama than Romney. Well if thats you and if you feel like we would be better off with Obama stacking the supreme court with 2 or 3 more radical libs than by all means help obama defeat Romney, but dont give me the other meme that Romney would appoint libs judges just like Obama. Romney might not be a solid ultra conservative but he certainly is not some far left lib either.

Yeah sure Romney said and did some fairly non-conservative things while gov. of the peoples republic of massachusetts, but afterall that is probably the most socialist liberal state in the country even moire so that california, so if he didnt put on a moderate face their he would never have come close to being elected gov. there, and mass would have been stuck with a ultra lib gov instead of a moderate one.

Romney is not going to nominate lib judges to the supreme court because the state of mass will not be the people he has to answer to. the people he has to answer to will be the conservatives, so he will want to keep conservatives happy by appointing conservative judges. Just like obama will want to keep libs happy by appointing lib judges, and throw in the fact obama will have 4 years of not having to worry about what the country thinks. we will have a 4 year non stop episode of socialists and gays gone wild.

I also hear some freepers say it doesnt matter if romney appoints the right judges or enacts the right policies because he wont be doing it because it’s whats in his heart, he will only be doing it because he knows he has to pacify conservatives to get relected in 2016. Well who cares why he does it ????? As long as romney did the right things I could care less if he is doing it with a pure heart or a oppurtunists heart. the bottom line is he would be doing the right things which is much more than what you can say for what obama would do. i swear some freepers act like their romneys wife or girlfriend with all this pure of heart stuff.

My message to freepers is keep your eye on the ball and remember whats really important and thats beating obama.


37 posted on 05/16/2012 6:43:55 AM PDT by redstater1216
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To: redstater1216
Your posts are making too much sense.

Better be careful, you will soon be noticed, and offense mounted to remove you, (again?).

42 posted on 05/16/2012 6:53:27 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: redstater1216

one helluva a great post


43 posted on 05/16/2012 6:54:48 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: redstater1216

Great post. Btw, If this keeps up it will be a landslide, you heard it here first.


55 posted on 05/16/2012 7:11:13 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: redstater1216

Correct. Conservatives will OWN Romney on appointments to the federal judiciary. He cannot afford any risk of a primary challenge in 2016.

Romney will be superb on judges and for those unaware, Judge Robert Bork is leading his judicial selection team.


57 posted on 05/16/2012 7:13:32 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: redstater1216
I just don't think I personally can vote for Romney, if Gary Johnson makes the ballot in my state he'll get my vote.

But that's about as far as I can take it. To see some posters on FR actually suggesting a vote for Obama, or cheering at any news indicating an Obama win....that frankly turns my stomach.

62 posted on 05/16/2012 7:33:27 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: redstater1216

“This 65 to 35 meme to me just sounds like sour grapes coming from freepers who still can’t get over the fact their guy or woman lost in the primaries.”

My percentages were not meant to convey I will not vote for Romney. I voted for McCain too as much as I knew he was a loser even with Palen buoying his numbers up.

I despise the jug eared jackass enough I would crawl over glass to vote against him in fact.

Perhaps my 65% was a touch exhuberent, but it could have easily been a high 58% in my opinion. As far as the fag, minority, and socialist vote, most of them are already registered as dems and the dem registration is what, 35% or so.

I agree with one other writer who said these last 4 years (of my 67 year life) have been the worse economically than I have ever encountered. That along with watching the country go down in esteem is very disconcerting.

So, the upshot is, I hope Romney wins but he is not a very strong candidate.


65 posted on 05/16/2012 7:40:26 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: redstater1216

Excellent post. Thanks for bringing reality and common sense into the debate.


87 posted on 05/16/2012 8:58:26 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: redstater1216
Nice reply in #37 and I urge latecomers to this thread to go back and read it.

After a very discouraging fall and winter with respect to the early GOP debates and primaries, I am finally starting to warm to the coming campaign and I'm starting to smell a GOP landslide.

When Sarah Palin announced she wasn't running in early October, I was so upset I couldn't even talk about it for weeks. Then when Herman Cain self-destructed and Michelle Bachmann failed to ignite, I started feeling rather hopeless about our prospects. I was never a Newt Gingrich fan and while I had no particular issue with Rick Santorum, he just never came across to me as a serious player. I realized that when he went home one weekend to "work on his tax returns." Now maybe I'm being unreasonable but that sealed the deal for me that Santorum was just not ready for prime time. I mean, if you can't even hire somebody to do your taxes for you, how are you going to run a country?

So that leaves Mitt Romney as the only man standing in the GOP race. A year ago, this would have been a nightmare scenario. Many of us here at Free Republic are still in denial but the fact is, Romney is now the only man standing between us and a disastrous Obama second term - which may well be the end of our country as we know it.

I know it's still early and I know that Obama's campaign will apparently have a billion dollars to throw around. But I don't think it will be enough. The American people might have been suckered into the "hope and change" meme of 2008 but they know better now. Hell, I think George W. Bush will beat Obama this November if he was eligible to run.

Say what you want about Romney but he's a careful man, not prone to big mistakes and gaffes. He's assembling a professional staff of people who know what they are doing and the campaign you will see this fall will bear no resemblance at all to the crappy, disjointed campaign you saw four years ago with John McCain. If Obama decides to go negative on Romney with the class warfare anti-Bain Capital stuff, the Romney campaign will not be afraid to go nuclear on Obama in return. And over the past four years, Obama has given the Romney campaign way more ammunition than they will ever dig up on Romney - even if they go back to when Romney was in fourth grade. Think Dukakis in a tank, only 10 times worse.

No, Romney won't fire up the conservative base like Reagan was able to do in 1980. But conservatives are going to flock to the polls this November, if anything, to vote in the down ticket races that will feature Tea-Party conservatives. And while they are in that booth, regardless of whether they admit it or not, they are going to pull Romney's lever at the top, even if they wince while doing it. Because they will know that by doing so, they will at least be canceling out a vote for Obama.

As for independents, they are going to vote for Romney in droves. Watch and see. Even a lot of white, male Democrats are going to go for Romney this time. I just ran the electoral calculator for the states I think are very winnable this November and came up with a 342-196 GOP landslide.

Watch the Wisconsin recall election on June 5. If Walker wins that one, you can put WI into the red for November as well.

I not going to get overconfident but I'm starting to feel good about our chances. What I'm really looking forward to is not necessarily a Romney presidency but the prospects of a filibuster proof majority in the House and control of the Senate.

115 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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