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To: Bigtigermike

Being a battered wife for 3 decades is obviously not working.

Time to let go Conservatives.


3 posted on 05/07/2012 9:07:46 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: roses of sharon

100% agree!!!!!!


5 posted on 05/07/2012 9:09:29 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: roses of sharon; jimpick; Bigtigermike
Conservatives want to obtain and maintain political power.

In America political power comes through a political party.

Third-party movements invariably elect the political party against whom the splinter group is most opposed.

Conservatives who want to obtain and maintain political power have very little chance of succeeding with a third-party.

Conservatives who want to obtain and maintain political power are well advised to do so by taking over the Republican Party and to strictly eschew flirting with third party.

The presidential nominating process in 2012 was fair, consisting of over 20 debates and 50 primaries.

The harsh reality is nothing other than Conservatives failed to sell their message to the bulk of the Republican electorate.

Next time, the Republicans would be well advised to raise money, disband their circular firing squad, and support an electable conservative.


10 posted on 05/07/2012 9:37:05 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: roses of sharon

If I could change one thing politically in my lifetime- Ronaldus Magnus would have picked Kemp as his VP. I think George Bush Sr. was a nice guy, but he was a pure New England RINO that never believed in Reaganism. He screwed the GOP with his domestic decisions and set the stage for Clinton. Reagan threw the GOPe a bone with Bush and the GOPe reversed the best thing to happen to them in modern times.

His son, another guy I liked as an individual, was another disaster for conservatives outside of tax policy. He campaigned as a conservative and presided over the biggest growth of government in my lifetime prior to Obamacare. The domestic response to 9/11 was big government in the extreme and he never let up for 8 years. His refusal to defend himself from critics or articulate a message so alienated Americans that they voted for a radical with a Muslim name and no real accomplishments.

The last real spark in the GOP for me was Newt’s 1994 Contract with America. It was crushed two years later when the GOP nominated Dole. That was when I registered as an independent although I have always voted for the lesser of two evils.

I am not surprised we ended up with Mr. Inevitable. I don’t like it, but are any of us really surprised? We are trapped. Lodge a protest and give Obama an unrestricted 4 years to go all in on the progressive agenda and stack SCOTUS or vote against him and suffer the slower dose of progressivism that will be defined, once again, as conservatism.

Perhaps we are not any different than France? What if we got our wish and elected a true conservative that would slash government? Would they be celebrated or would they be crushed by a nation that no longer believes in sacrifice for it’s children and is consumed with what’s in it for them?

What if the traditional Republicans have lost their appetite for the principles of Reagan? What if most of the GOP is just like the nominees they vote for? You know, they talk a good conservative game even while they don’t want to interrupt the big government gravy train.

I don’t have much faith that any politician(s) can fix our nation because that would require a strong majority of our citizens to change their mindset about government. The progressives have cemented almost half the popular vote. Like Justice Kennedy, the moderates decide the race and they constantly change directions like a school of minnows. The GOP needs a supermajority of the independents to win. The rats only need a few in key states.

We are in deep trouble as a nation and it will take many administrations to get our fiscal house in order. Does anyone think it’s possible to find that spark and keep it burning in the moderates for 3 administrations in the face of the ultimate propaganda machine (modern media and academics) as well as a motivated base (see Wisconsin unions)?

I don’t.


61 posted on 05/07/2012 11:11:40 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: roses of sharon

I completely agree. The GOP is out o` gas.


105 posted on 05/08/2012 4:33:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: roses of sharon

Ping (see tag line)


120 posted on 05/08/2012 6:56:51 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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