[cuban leaf]

—Ever cross your mind that the reason they don’t is because they agree with him?—

Not only has it crossed my mind, but I think it is at least partly true. It is one reason I say there is no political solution to our current dilemma. The other reason is that I think we are so far gone that the founding fathers themselves could return from the grave and still not get us out of this mess. It is too late. the die is cast. The ship has hit the iceberg and is dead in the water. The flooding has reached C deck. Etc...

[itsahoot]

The other reason is that I think we are so far gone that the founding fathers themselves could return from the grave and still not get us out of this mess.

You are exactly right IMHO. I think we are going to pay a heavy price for removing God from our culture. Jefferson trembled at the though that God was just.