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1 posted on 05/02/2012 7:50:49 AM PDT by Strategy
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And about 100 years to “nation build”.


2 posted on 05/02/2012 7:53:52 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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Does that count the time it would take to get O’bama off the golf course, into a jacket and in front of the TV?


3 posted on 05/02/2012 7:53:52 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Victory would take 3 weeks.

Peace would take a decade or more.

Our government is still of the Vietnam War mentality. It took days to take down Saddam Hussein — twice. Iraq, a decade later, is still not at peace.


4 posted on 05/02/2012 7:53:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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"We plan for any eventuality we can and provide options to the president,"

With this President?....DREAM ON!

5 posted on 05/02/2012 7:55:47 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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How long to wipe out the Islamic infrastructure and imam leadership?


6 posted on 05/02/2012 7:56:40 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Depends on what you call victory. Thoroughly trashing the place so that they are incapable of any industrial production, much less high end uranium refining, sure we could do that in three weeks. Undo the damage of radical Islam on the Persian people, we couldn't do that in a century.

Nation building is a pipe dream. People talk about the Marshal plan as being nation building, but the nations already existed. It was just fixing broken buildings. Creating a civilized nation state where one has not existed in centuries isn't nearly so straight forward. It is difficult to comprehend what needs to be done and nearly impossible to do it.

Nation wrecking on the other hand is quite simple in theory and easy in execution.

8 posted on 05/02/2012 8:01:06 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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I hate these type of predictions. It makes me think of "the Battle of Manassas" during the Civil War when the Washington Elite showed up with picnic baskets to watch the quick defeat of the Rebel forces that didn't happen.

Watching a real war with people getting killed and maimed, how sick is that?

Anyway, I think we could beat Iran quickly, but what if we can't? What if more countries get dragged into the war? War often isn't predictable.

10 posted on 05/02/2012 8:04:08 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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Three weeks to ‘Mission Accomplished’ then 15-20 years to weed out the dissenters/partisans/terrorists and rebuild the nation and then abandon it when the next Dem POTUS takes over after demonizing the idea for years.

This sounds familiar for some reason.

Did abandoning Iraq make any sense?

14 posted on 05/02/2012 8:09:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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Like every where, 3 weeks and 10 years for the American people to buy and build all the water, power, schools etc, etc etc.

We should have been out of the ME three weeks after the first bomb landed but nope.


15 posted on 05/02/2012 8:09:45 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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Three weeks to ‘Mission Accomplished’ then 15-20 years to weed out the dissenters/partisans/terrorists and then rebuild the nation $$$$$$ and then abandon it when the next Dem POTUS takes over after demonizing the idea for years.

This sounds familiar for some reason.

Did abandoning Iraq make any sense?

17 posted on 05/02/2012 8:09:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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Wasn’t the same said about Vietnam, North Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan (all with some variation, but with similar meaning)?


21 posted on 05/02/2012 8:14:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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"Pentagon strategists estimate that they would need less than a month to defeat Iranian forces"


24 posted on 05/02/2012 8:16:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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Military dominance by itself is useless against a radicalized population, in fact it would likely increase future conflict.

Total war means society against society to see which collective government will prevail.

The only useful goal of any conflict is to get the enemy to stop fighting. Iran, stop fighting?

Conquest always either dies from indigestion or survives from assimilation. I’m not seeing any Planet Hollywoods in downtown Tehran.

Did we hire Baghdad Bob?

Tactics should never lead strategy. (pardon my pun, Strategy)


30 posted on 05/02/2012 8:21:56 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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Yup, and this time the ‘rats wouldn’t question the president if at that point he claimed major combat operations were over.


33 posted on 05/02/2012 8:24:12 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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We should NOT invade Iran unless our strategy is something along the lines of “invade, blow $#!+ up, leave, lather, rinse, repeat.”


34 posted on 05/02/2012 8:25:26 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (We apologise for the fault in this tagline. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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And after the completion of conventional military operations how long will the irregular war last?

That is the real lesson behind Operation Iraqi Freedom. The run to Baghdad and its capture lasted how many days? And how long did we fight the irregular stay behinds?

For many years I read and professionally commented on various war scenarios and conferences designed to establish logistic requirements. The DOD stopped when the last conventional (building, bridge, airfield, sea port) was theoretically destroyed, for the first time. Addressing enemy combat repair and irregular warfare NEVER entered into those discussions. Even when I publicly rubbed their individual and collective noses in their own sh***y falsehoods I was told they couldn't do anything else because of the procedures and policies they had to use.

Until Islam voluntarily under goes a reformation and Renascence level social and religious experience there can be no peace between us. Proof of statement - how many contemporary Islamic politicians are still complaining out the Crusades - events that happened between 1095 and 1291 AD as if they happened within our lifetimes?

41 posted on 05/02/2012 8:54:46 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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Attacking Iran would be utter insanity. And since every senior political figure in both parties has made some favorable reference to it in recent months, it will probably happen before the election.

We're entering the last years of our Empire.

43 posted on 05/02/2012 9:02:26 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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Anyone want to buy a bridge?


45 posted on 05/02/2012 9:06:07 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Geez, I just watched Was the Dog last night and now I see this thread. Let’s see Barry start a war just before the election. That’s the ticket.


46 posted on 05/02/2012 9:10:49 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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This Russian paper is the sort that for a few dollars anyone can get a ‘news story’ published. This looks like psychological warfare and black propaganda to rattle mullah land. Lots of this sort of thing gets printed in middle eastern and Paki rags. It must shake the turban turners in Qom up a bit.
50 posted on 05/02/2012 9:19:26 AM PDT by robowombat
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