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To: presently no screen name

I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church. Whatever the source of those policies may be, it does not really appear to be his church.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 8:47:05 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (remember when "Four more years!" was a credible campaign slogan for an incumbent?)
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To: faithhopecharity; presently no screen name; Colofornian

I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church.

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Then you would be wrong. Mormonism is not pro life, and not anti-gay. They accept and even promote these things, not oppose them and I can source that. Learn the facts, don’t rely on Mormon propaganda.


28 posted on 05/01/2012 9:05:26 PM PDT by reaganaut (There is no such thing as the 'lesser of two evils'. Both are still evil. Romney = Obama)
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To: faithhopecharity; presently no screen name; Clintonfatigued; reaganaut
This is true but it is the EVIL spirit within him that left MA with his same sex marriage, $50 abortions and socialistic healthcare. He initiated it. The evil spirit is from his Mormonism beliefs - they are not from God, so it can’t be good. [presently no screen name, post #4]

I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church. Whatever the source of those policies may be, it does not really appear to be his church. [Faithhopecharity, post #20]

Sometimes shallow parents produce shallow children -- even if the areas of life upon which they are shallow are quite distinct.

Or pick out another dozen traits or characteristics and say the same thing.

In this case, the spiritual parent -- the Mormon church & Romney's Mormon family/ancestors -- have produced spiritual "kids" who are wishy-washy. I mean, even in abortion...look how squishy wishy-washy the Mormon church is:

Abortion: The official Mormon church position (see
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_abor.htm) is that it's "OK" for an abortion if...
(a) Incest needs to be covered up;
(b) The baby is disabled and needs to be destroyed accordingly
(c) Mom's "health" (whatever that means...distinct from saying "life" of the mother)
(d) If the abortionist says it's "OK"
(e) If the Mormon god says it's "OK" in prayer...

E alone above could "justify" abortion to individual Mormons as long it overrides the person's conscience!

Therefore...If people want to understand Mormonism's approach to the socio-political realm, please read these two articles (the first written by a Mormon; the second by an ex-Mormon):

* Mitt Romney mirrors his Mormon church [Lds writer says Romney flip-flops 'cause Lds church has/does]
*
Who is Mitt Romney? [Ex-Lds author reveals why Mitt's wishy-washy culture waffles & flip-flops]

In the first linked article above, Mormon Neal Chandler highlights how in the 19th century...
* Mormons forced communism upon its people -- and then not (United Order)
* Adhered to theocracies under its first two "prophets" -- and then slowly drew back
* Said polygamy was a condition of the highest degree of glory -- and then not
* Encouraged its Utah Territory voters to be Democrats -- and then told whole groups of people wholesale to "balance it out" as Republicans as statehood approached
* Excluded blacks -- and then late in the 20th century not

From the second article linked above: What makes Mitt the kind of person he is — ruthlessly opportunistic, dishonest, insincere, willing to say anything for advantage, lacking in conscience, preoccupied with appearance, etc., on the one hand, yet squeaky clean, family-oriented, disciplined, boring, and predictable, on the other? My new e-book, A Mormon Story, sheds light on the culture that produced Mitt Romney.

Good question. (It's one I've raised -- and answered numerous times on various FR threads)

The answer, says this ex-Mormon in the book referenced above is: (From the article): The book reveals a value system that ultimately has no absolutes, other than the need to conform to deep-seated, highly-controlling authoritarianism that pervades LDS culture. That culture emphasizes a Mormon tradition known as "eternal progression" — undoctrinal spiritual evolution in which even God is changing. It also emphasizes the notion that the latest words of governing church leaders trump the Word of God found in the scriptures (including LDS scripture).

IOW, EVERYTHING in Mormonism -- from its theology to its social practices -- is up for potential change at the whim of the Mormon god. Bottom-line: There is no bottom-line in Mormonism! There is no bedrock doctrine that cannot be replaced!

There isn't even an Ultimate god in Mormonism...Nobody knows who the gods are that were part of the council which appointed the god of this world -- a former man, say Mormons.

So there's not even any Ultimate Authority in Mormonism!

All is up for grabs -- to be waffled upon -- @ any given notice by the Lds "prophet"!

41 posted on 05/01/2012 9:56:28 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: faithhopecharity
I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church. Whatever the source of those policies may be, it does not really appear to be his church.

faithhopecharity
4-04-12

Newbie, did you sign up to tell us what some Mormons church believe and what 'his' doesn't. How would you happen to have this foundation of knowledge and, also, know what I object to? How about godless?

76 posted on 05/01/2012 11:26:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: faithhopecharity
I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church.

Have you any evidence that would support this 'belief'?

You typed 'most'.

Could you state which ones, you believe ARE supported or taught?

125 posted on 05/02/2012 5:15:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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