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Obama and the bin Laden Bragging Rights
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Apr 30, 2012 | Michael Mukasey

Posted on 05/01/2012 5:28:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo

OPINION Updated April 30, 2012, 7:43 p.m. ET

Michael Mukasey:

Obama and the bin Laden Bragging Rights

It's hard to imagine Lincoln or Eisenhower claiming such credit for the heroic actions of others.

By MICHAEL B. MUKASEY

The first anniversary of the SEAL Team 6 operation that killed Osama bin Laden brings the news that President Obama plans during the coming campaign to exploit the bragging rights to the achievement. That plan invites scrutiny that is unlikely to benefit him.

Consider the events surrounding the operation. A recently disclosed memorandum from then-CIA Director Leon Panetta shows that the president's celebrated derring-do in authorizing the operation included a responsibility-escape clause: "The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven's hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out."

Which is to say, if the mission went wrong, the fault would be Adm. McRaven's, not the president's. Moreover, the president does not seem to have addressed at all the possibility of seizing material with intelligence value—which may explain his disclosure immediately following the event not only that bin Laden was killed, but also that a valuable trove of intelligence had been seized, including even the location of al Qaeda safe-houses. That disclosure infuriated the intelligence community because it squandered the opportunity to exploit the intelligence that was the subject of the boast.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2012election; binladen; bragging; campaign; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; mediawingofthednc; mittromney; obama; partisanmediashills; waronterror

1 posted on 05/01/2012 5:28:31 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

TOSS THE Czar/Tsar/Caesar SALADIN in 2012


2 posted on 05/01/2012 5:37:34 AM PDT by wm25burke
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To: KeyLargo

Saying the zer0bama regime took down Bin Laden...

....is like saying the Nixon Administration put Apollo 11 on the moon....


3 posted on 05/01/2012 5:47:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: KeyLargo

This morning, Sen. John McCain said on Fox News (I’m paraphrasing), “I have had the privilege of working with heroes. Heroes don’t brag.”


4 posted on 05/01/2012 5:49:16 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: KeyLargo

Does someone have the side-by-side posting of President Bush’s statement on Saddam’s capture and zero’s statement on bin Laden’s capture?


5 posted on 05/01/2012 5:50:18 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: KeyLargo

Frankly, the word on the street in Pakistan is that the reason we never saw Osama’s body is that Osama was never there.

Of course, the word on the street in Pakistan is always subject to considerable skepticism. But, observers point out the following:

* There was never an unusual traffic coming in and out of the compound that would have indicated someone important holding up there.

* There were no guards posted at points around the compound that would have aroused suspicion.

* In a country notorious for loose lips sinking ships, no one ever hinted at any unusual activity or presence at the compound — though even lower-level officials would have had to have some knowledge.

* Osama was said to have been a very sick man, likely in need of continual dialysis — yet there was never any indication of him coming out for hospital visits, or doctors going in on a regular basis.

* Though Pakistan is full of Osama supporters, there was no massive public outcry against the US “invasion” — and the Pakistanis love to take to the streets.

All circumstantial to be sure. But, faced with choosing between believing the Pakistanis and Barack Obama, it is a toss-up at best.


6 posted on 05/01/2012 5:51:12 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: KeyLargo

I still think Obama made a deal with somebody in AQ. They gave him Bin Laden, and Obama gave them Libya.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 5:54:12 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: KeyLargo
Check out post #101...
8 posted on 05/01/2012 5:54:52 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: KeyLargo
"I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority . . . even as I continued our broader effort. . . . Then, after years of painstaking work by my intelligence community I was briefed . . . I met repeatedly with my national security team . . . And finally last week I determined that I had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . ."

I am struck by the repetitive use of "my" in this excerpt. These are the words of someone who sees himself as a ruler, not a president.

9 posted on 05/01/2012 5:58:54 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Vaquero

This ought to be the RNC and Romney mantra EVERY TIME the MSM goes that route:

“Osama Bin Ladin was the easiest foreign policy decision of Obama’s presidency.”

The table was set. All he had to do was pull up a chair and wait to be served.

End of Story.

RLTW


10 posted on 05/01/2012 6:03:25 AM PDT by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: bcsco

11 posted on 05/01/2012 6:06:07 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Good stuff!


12 posted on 05/01/2012 6:11:23 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: thethirddegree
If you think that the I, me, my, mine might be just a tad overused by Lord Obama, just wait 30 or 30 years and see how the “Killing Osama” story is told.

One of two ways:
1) Obama bravely parachuted into Pakistan and took out Bin Laden single handed. Like a modern black Rambo.
or
2) US Navy Seal team in an operation as audacious as the Doolittle Raid, took out the number one terrorist in the world.

Which story is told will be determined by whether Obama can complete his transformation of the United States into a Banana Republic.

13 posted on 05/01/2012 6:11:28 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: KeyLargo

Obama been laudin’ his “supervision” of the Seals who got bin Laden.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 6:12:32 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: KeyLargo
Coincidence? While in hiding, Osama bin Laden plotted to assassinate US President Barack Obama - @NBCNewsStory
15 posted on 05/01/2012 6:23:12 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Vaquero

“Saying the zer0bama regime took down Bin Laden...

....is like saying the Nixon Administration put Apollo 11 on the moon.... “

You can’t give the credit to Kennedy or Johnson. The program could have been scrapped in Nixon’s first budget.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 6:23:45 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: KeyLargo
Didn't we just celebrate the 39th (monthly) anniversary of Zer0's order to close Club Gitmo'?

How's that working out? I say give credit where credit is due.

17 posted on 05/01/2012 6:31:06 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: KeyLargo

OBAMA USING ROMNEY AS A CLINTON SURROGATE
Is Obama using the swipes he seems to be taking at Romney to get back at Clinton ?
While it may appear that Obama is accusing Romney of being weak there is a former democratic president who “passed” on knocking off OBL and it was Clinton.
Clinton was informed that Osama was discovered to be in a desert area by the CIA but Clinton reportedly had nixed the attempt to “take him out” .

Whether Obama expected Romney to mention this in his response but instead mentioned Carter when this accusation was aired in a camapign ad. It may have been forgotten by the Romney people .

But Clinton’s pass on knocking off the 911 mastermind would not be forgotten by the very thin skinned Obama which may also hint at the growing dissatisfaction with the poor performance of Obama as President within Democratic ranks.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 6:39:20 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: paterfamilias

right, heroes don’t brag. reminds me of the saying, weak men talk about their sex. strong men simply enjoy it.


19 posted on 05/01/2012 6:40:37 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: KeyLargo
Flashback from the Washington Compost:

Bush Ads Using 9/11 Images Stir Anger

20 posted on 05/01/2012 6:41:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: KeyLargo
The man from whom President Obama has sought incessantly to distance himself, George W. Bush, also had occasion during his presidency to announce to the nation a triumph of intelligence: the capture of Saddam Hussein. He called that success "a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq."

He attributed it to "the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator's footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers. . . . Their work continues, and so do the risks."

He did mention himself at the end: "Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate them."

21 posted on 05/01/2012 7:02:04 AM PDT by Larry381 ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
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To: wtd

I was going to read that until I saw NBC, not a chance.


22 posted on 05/01/2012 7:04:41 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: KeyLargo

Stupid stuff. Osama died years earlier after being wounded in an internal squabble.

The W admin knew this (the admiral in charge of DIA was directly updated), but had some snags proving it. So did Obama. And the Seal team could never talk, of course. And now they’re all dead, to boot.


23 posted on 05/01/2012 7:24:36 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: Rappini

I felt the same way . . . I posted it to illustrtate how far the msm will go to engender this poser and his narrative.


24 posted on 05/01/2012 7:25:51 AM PDT by wtd
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To: paterfamilias

> This morning, Sen. John McCain said on Fox News (I’m paraphrasing), “I have had the privilege of working with heroes. Heroes don’t brag.”

Amen to that.
Obama is a blabbermouth opportunist who lacks the honor and courage that is inherent in true heroes.


25 posted on 05/01/2012 7:34:38 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: KeyLargo

IMO, Obama had Osama killed only as ‘payback’ for his going against the Soviets in the 80s. He obviously has no problem with terrorists who’ve attacked the Pentagon and various other military and gov facilities. He launched his political career in the living room of two communist terrorists, Bill Ayers and wife, Bernardine Dohrn. They bombed the Pentagon, Capital, numerous military facilities and police stations.


26 posted on 05/01/2012 8:06:02 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: KeyLargo
"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor/"spiritual adviser" for TWENTY plus years!

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"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"


27 posted on 05/01/2012 8:07:27 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: KeyLargo
BOTH OBAMA AND OSAMA HAVE
FRIENDS WHO BOMBED THE PENTAGON

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From HumanEvents.com, April 29, 2008:
"By all accounts, he [Obama friend and associate, Bill Ayers] was a ferocious, violent, revolutionary Marxist in his halcyon days as a Weatherman leader. He and his Weatherman bombers were enamored of Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Mao Tse-tung -- indeed, all the murderous heroes on the Left. Referring to the Weatherman members in August 1969, he said (according to the FBI): 'We’re revolutionary Communists.'

He got off on the group’s multiple explosions, too, and discusses them rather lovingly in his memoir.

Ideal Bombing Weather:
'Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,' he writes (although he concedes it was really a group effort). 'The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.' (p. 256 in the 2003 edition.)

Article: Obama and His Weatherman Friends
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26243
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Pentagon attack, Sept 11, 2001


28 posted on 05/01/2012 8:08:23 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: KeyLargo
BOTH OBAMA AND OSAMA HAVE
FRIENDS WHO WANTED TO BOMB FORT DIX

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
March 6, 1970: "three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey -- an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

"The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events
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2007 Fort Dix attack plot

A group of six radical Islamist[1] men, allegedly plotting to stage an attack on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey, United States, were arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on May 7, 2007. They were subsequently charged with planning an attack against U.S. soldiers. The alleged aim of the six men was said to be to "kill as many soldiers as possible".[2] Their trial began on October 20, 2008. [3]

Opening arguments were presented on October 20, 2008.
Assistant U.S. Attorney William Fitzpatrick said the defendants were inspired by jihad saying "Their motive was to defend Islam. Their inspiration was Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Dix_plot


29 posted on 05/01/2012 8:08:50 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: KeyLargo
Open Mic Catches Obama Asking Medvedev for Space on Missile Defense
March 26, 2012

"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.

This is my last election,” Obama told Medvedev. “After my election I have more flexibility.”

“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."

http://fox8.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense/
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Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space.”

Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ...”

Obama: “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” That statement tells us much about the president’s mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president’s comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase “on all these issues,” implying more is at stake than just missile defense.”

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn’t be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/

30 posted on 05/01/2012 8:09:55 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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IMO, Obama had Osama killed only as ‘payback’ for his going against the Soviets in the 80s.


31 posted on 05/01/2012 8:20:28 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: LetsRok

Nixon did scrap it after Apollo 17...he came in in January and let it coast through the July launch, which was already scheduled when he came into office....he used up the stuff that was already built.

He did NOTHING for the space program...

he wasnt even a conservative...he was a statist, and elitist and a crony capitalist who implimented wage and price freezes.


32 posted on 05/01/2012 8:32:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: KeyLargo; W. W. SMITH; doug from upland; Nachum; Cindy; G8 Diplomat; AdmSmith; Dog; nuconvert; ...

Some explanation on special operations is needed to sort out the “he said, she said” cacophony going on.

There are many intel pursuits going on all the time on many HVT’s in safe houses all over AfPak. The HVT’s are almost always on the move between safe houses, very difficult to know when to pull the trigger.

After Tora Bora, UBL had three distinct safe havens, localized areas where a number of safe houses existed, fully stocked by some local and available 24/7.

UBL’s entire problem was the wives and kids, very easy to spot their movement. We knew the wives would constantly demand more comfort and stability. His youngest wife refused to live in caves and underground and actually left UBL and went back to Yemen until he agreed to leave Tora Bora at about the same time as our attack.

When UBL left Tora Bora because of the family’s complaints we knew he would be heading for a more urban area as soon as a big enough safe house could be built.

That took years for us to figure out because we needed a network of locals all over Pakistan, that were reliable, like doctors and lawyers, and well paid.

We found UBL not because intel pointed out where he was, but where he wasn’t...... That’s the kicker, it takes years to sort out.

I think UBL would have been safer in Quetta, hiding among the Baloch as they are hard to bribe, but they constantly bicker and quarrel, loose lips.

No brainer that UBL avoided Pakhtun areas as they are very gossipy and easy to bribe.

We knew UBL was somewhere in NE Pakistan as his videos to Al Jazeera came out of N India on virtually the same pathway and couriers.

When a target gets paranoid they cut back on the familiars around them. Familiars find safe pathways and tend to stick with them. If there are only 2-3 handoffs and you find a courier it is fairly easy to track back.

We knew UBL wasn’t going anywhere from Abottabad with all that family to move, so no hurry, let’s see who the visitors are..... We want Z badly, more than UBL.

When we realized there were no visitors to harvest, the raid was on.

On chain of command: McRaven makes the call if the HVT decides to move. If no urgency, Panetta makes the call. Obama is only informed of the decision after assets are in place, but has only a veto regarding the “go”.

If the POTUS says nothing, the raid is on. Obama’s posturing about saying “go” is not true as that is an operational command not available to him, he can only say “no”.

The POTUS has already signed off on the HVT kill or capture list by a secret Presidential Memo.

Very unlikely that any WH staffers like Jarrett had any knowledge of the raid.


33 posted on 05/01/2012 8:33:58 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Larry381

Newsmax

SEALs: Obama Taking Credit for bin Laden ‘Cheap Shot’

Monday, April 30, 2012 10:31 PM

By: Martin Gould

Current and former US Navy SEALs have joined the attacks on President Barack Obama for attempting to take credit for killing Osama bin Laden and using them and Special Forces members as ‘ammunition’ for his campaign.

Author and former SEAL Brandon Webb told Newsmax that Obama’s White House predecessor, George W. Bush, deserves much of the praise for taking out the world’s most wanted man.

And other SEALs bashed the president to Britain’s MailOnline after Obama released a campaign ad called “One Chance,” to coincide with this week’s first anniversary of the raid that killed the al-Qaida figurehead....

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/SEALs-Obama-binLaden-/2012/04/30/id/437580


34 posted on 05/01/2012 11:54:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: gandalftb; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks gandalftb.


35 posted on 05/01/2012 4:37:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Larry381

This is a couple of years old, but what a difference.

George & Laura Bush at Dallas Ft Worth Airport

http://guntrucks.multiply.com/photos/album/1232/George_Laura_Bush_at_Dallas_Ft_Worth_Airport


36 posted on 05/02/2012 4:34:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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