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To: JSDude1; Hodar

I am a conservative, not a libertarian maybe that’s the difference between you and I.

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You nailed it. Hodar is the typical FR liberal screaming and ranting about censorship and dictatorships simply because we conservatives would dare express a desire our country - our society - AND EVEN OUR GOVERNMENT return to basic fundamental conservatives rules and laws that 1)our country was founded on and 2) rules and laws that made America great.

But hey. If Ho wants to go gaga over Gaga, then that’s his right. Just as my right is voting for candidates who oppose his ideals and supporting laws that promote sane fiscal and social policies.


31 posted on 04/30/2012 1:59:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You have no concept on what our Gov’t was founded on. The Bill of Rights says what the Gov’t CANNOT do. You are constantly inventing rationale for the Federal Gov’t to take away the very freedoms you think you hold dear. You are the person who insists that what people do in their bedroom, is indeed, somehow YOUR business.

You are a power-hungry tryant, who luckily for mankind, has been denied the power to control others. I suspect you have a rough enough time managing your own affairs. Trying to dictate what eveyrone else does, is not, never was, and will never be your job.

Get over yourself.


38 posted on 04/30/2012 2:11:44 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It really helps if you know what terms mean

Libertarian

Libertarianism is generally considered to be the group of political philosophies which emphasize freedom, individual liberty, and voluntary association. Libertarianism is variously defined by sources. There is no general consensus among scholars on the precise definition nor on how one should use the term as a historical category. Libertarians generally advocate a society with little or no government power.

Liberal

New Liberalism is a book by Matthew Kalkman[1][2][3][4] that examines the evolution of Liberalism from its early beginnings to its potential future incarnations. The author argues that New Liberalism is the next step in this evolution: the notion that, in order for a society to be maintained and to evolve, it is necessary to take into account our responsibility to future generations. The key challenges of our time, from climate change to the growing debt and deficits, and the growing inequalities all threaten not only our freedom, but the freedom of future generations. Where classical liberalism was centered on negative freedom (freedom from harm), and social liberalism was centered on the broader concept of positive freedom (freedom to develop), new liberalism adds a further dimension with the concept of timeless freedom (ensuring the freedom of future generations through proactive action taken today).

In conclusion - there is very little in common with a modern-day "Liberal" and a "Libertarian". Here's a hint: Democrats are typically "Liberals".

40 posted on 04/30/2012 2:20:32 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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