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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Lil Flower

And If the pain is too great, or the delirium / dementia is so severe, the person can’t serve or worship.

My religious beliefs are different from yours. Your statement would nullify any conversation with a good Baptist or an atheist.

The medicine and compassion are for the patient. A godd reason for the doctor - or the hospice nurse - to discuss end of life religious wishes with the patient before hand.


147 posted on 04/30/2012 2:28:07 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

Absolutely you always find out the pts religious beliefs at the beginning of care. My point was that people, if they are believers, make their peace with God while they’re still lucid and pain control does not effect that.


153 posted on 04/30/2012 3:31:48 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: hocndoc
And If the pain is too great ... the person can’t serve or worship.

My religious beliefs are different from yours. Your statement would nullify any conversation with a good Baptist or an atheist.

You've never read about or don't believe in deathbed conversions such as in Luke 23?

40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[d]” 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

How could Dismas have converted in the midst of the agony of crucifixion if your first statement is true?

If your first statement is false, how many deathbed conversions are thwarted by terminal sedation?

186 posted on 05/02/2012 11:53:50 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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