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Get ready for new face of gun owners(FL)
tampabay.com ^ | 29 April, 2012 | John Romano

Posted on 04/29/2012 6:33:07 AM PDT by marktwain

They stood side by side, staring intently at the iced tea jugs resting on the ground in front of them. The teacher. The widow. The student, the homemaker and the businesswoman.

It is a Saturday afternoon, and they are among more than two dozen people who have paid $50 to be here. To watch videos, listen to instructors and feel safer than before.

For just a few moments, it is virtually silent. And then comes an explosion of thunder as they begin raising pistols and blasting away at the doomed jugs before them.

• • •

Chances are, someone in your neighborhood carries a gun. Chances are also good that you will come across a stranger carrying a concealed weapon at some point today.

More than 900,000 Floridians are licensed to carry a concealed weapon, including more than 100,000 residents in Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties alone.

In the bay area, that works out to about one out of every 25 people.

If those statistics come as a surprise, then you'll want to pay attention. Because the numbers are growing. Daily. Rapidly.

From July 2004 to July 2005, the number of new concealed weapon permit applications in Pinellas County was 1,554. By 2009-10, it had increased 383 percent.

They may not have those exact numbers at their fingertips at the Wyoming Antelope Club in Clearwater, but they are well aware of the trends. Seats for their $50 concealed weapons permit class (CWP) are often filled more than a month in advance.

And you may be interested to see who is sitting in those seats.

Men, yes. But almost half of the class in April was female. Hunters and gun enthusiasts, yes. But there were a fair number of people who had never before fired a gun.

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; class; fl; youwillnotdisarmus
The left/progressives have lost this issue. It is a critical issue for them, because without it, they have lost the debate that government can be all knowing, all providing, and all protective.

We are winning.

1 posted on 04/29/2012 6:33:09 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Have you noticed how the left now says that the debate isn't about gun ownership but keeping guns out of the hands of violent criminals?

It was only 20 years ago that the position on the left was about keeping guns out of the hands of the law abiding. They have been so trounced on this issue that they have to pretend their past gun-grabber history didn't happen.

And even their feeble efforts to politicize events such as the Trayvon shooting have blown up in their faces as it becomes clearer that the shooting was a case of legitimate self-defense and Zimmerman was not a homicidal maniac.

2 posted on 04/29/2012 6:37:14 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: marktwain
“We are winning.”
Don't be fooled by the lull in the action. They never rest in their relentless pursuit of their agenda, and this is an important roadblock to their plans.
“They” learned their lessons well when being openly anti-gun cost them in election cycles, so it's only the firmly entrenched in liberal bastions that dare be forthright about their intentions.
They have the MSM, they lie, scheme and cheat, and they will never stop until they are extinct.
3 posted on 04/29/2012 6:52:55 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: marktwain

Great video of grandmother explaining how she shot would-be robber. She always carries a gun. Without her gun she would have died.

http://www.11alive.com/rss/article/239544/40/Grandmother-shoots-would-be-robbers-


4 posted on 04/29/2012 6:55:48 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: marktwain

I live in hillsbourgh county and had no idea 100,000 of us have CC permits.....

Makes me very glad...

Between my neighbor and I we probaly have enough weapons to arm half the block if need be....


5 posted on 04/29/2012 6:59:28 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: marktwain

There is so much “gun culture” that needs to be relearned by the public that there is really an opportunity for someone to make a lot of money teaching “all the things”.

It could be as simple as a video camera, a lesson plan, several assistants, several different types of guns and other weapons, and different (video and gun) shooting locations. Burn several DVDs which could be sold individually or as a box set.

Probably the hardest and most expensive part would be advertising it to those who would want to buy it.


6 posted on 04/29/2012 8:46:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("God's light and God's life ooze over me like warm butter." -- Gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson)
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
The whole way this article is written reflects the sense of both fear and amazement that leftmedia types experience when actually looking at the gun issue from ground level.

SNN6 news here in Sarasota, FL is currently running coverage of a local gun show, and it's very apparent there as well. Overall, a good thing, although it must discomfort the poor dears. You can almost hear the mental gears grinding.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

7 posted on 04/29/2012 10:10:07 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
" . . shall NOT be infringed "
8 posted on 04/29/2012 10:13:57 AM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: marktwain

“We are winning.”

I don’t think I would “crow” to loud about that.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 10:16:25 AM PDT by depenzz (There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt. John Adam)
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To: Atlantan

Wow! What a brave and cute grandma you have there. God Bless her and keep her safe.

I hope she never has to encounter that kind of trauma again. I hope none of us do. If she had not been armed and brave, she would have been another victim of the criminal class.


10 posted on 04/29/2012 10:39:24 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: marktwain

The left’s greatest weapon against gun ownership was the perception that gun ownership was somehow rare, unusual, and perverse.

Shall-issue laws are a direct attack on that.


11 posted on 04/29/2012 10:47:46 AM PDT by jdege
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To: marktwain

Some of the items in the “Comments” section are interesting. Lefties saying they are getting guns and CCW in case the “teabaggers” get in their faces. The lefties are becoming increasingly unhinged.


12 posted on 04/29/2012 10:57:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Atlantan

That’s a great story. I posted the Macon Telegraph’s article about it.

‘I carry a gun all the time’ says woman who thwarted Macon holdup attempt
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2875890/posts


13 posted on 04/29/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain

To All

Here is a link to an award winning producer who is going to make a movie about the idiotic gun laws in California.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=561952

Give him some help if you can.


14 posted on 04/29/2012 11:12:00 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: marktwain
I went to the source article to read it and how weird is it that the little ad for the school of business at University of Tampa has an Islamic minaret and mosque contained as the pic?
15 posted on 04/29/2012 11:53:08 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Popman
I live in hillsbourgh county and had no idea 100,000 of us have CC permits.....

Fellow Hillsboroughian here... believe it!

16 posted on 04/29/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Joe Brower
The whole way this article is written reflects the sense of both fear and amazement that leftmedia types experience when actually looking at the gun issue from ground level.

It's about as fair as you can expect from the Tampa Bay Slimes. I'm surprised they took time off of posting anti-Zimmerman articles, Stand Your Ground fringe cases (including a database), calls to repeal the law, and editorials criticizing Scott for "stacking the deck" in the SYG Review Panel.

What a worthless rag.

17 posted on 04/29/2012 12:14:55 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: ExSoldier
how weird is it that the little ad for the school of business at University of Tampa has an Islamic minaret and mosque contained as the pic?

To be fair, the iconic UT building and minaret was built as the Tampa Bay Hotel by railroad magnate Henry B. Plant in 1891.

18 posted on 04/29/2012 12:17:53 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Amen, brother. The left are like cockroaches. Turn the light on and they scurry away, but they are still inside the walls, waiting for their next opportunity.


19 posted on 04/29/2012 12:40:19 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: tomkat

Yes, I don’t think that many people understand that one.

Every gun law in this country is unconstitutional. “...shall not be enfringed.” Clear as day.


20 posted on 04/29/2012 1:04:33 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Dan Nunn
Lately the big "issue" the TBT has been yapping about has been how the Tampa bigwigs are asking Rick Scott to waive the state-level gun laws for the upcoming RNC conference.

When it comes to disarming the law-abiding public, any excuse will do.

21 posted on 04/29/2012 1:27:01 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
... is that a gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? ... Mae West

In today’s Key West Citizen & Bait Wrapper:

7.3% of Keys residents can be packing

………… Monroe County ranks second in the state in the number of concealed carry weapons permits issued per capita, according to the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, which administers the permits. There were 5,370 concealed carry holders in the Keys as of March 31, which was 7.3 percent of the population, according to the state agency's website.

The rankings were compiled this month by the News Service of Florida, which found Dixie County leading the state with one in 10 residents having concealed carry permits. Statewide, the per capita average is 4.2 percent. Calhoun, Gilchrist, Glades, Lafayette, Liberty, St. Johns and Sumter counties all have the lowest per capita concealed weapons rates, all under 3 percent.

"It does surprise me, because the demographic here is more live and let live and most of the demographic here doesn't seem to be the type to carry a weapon," McGee said of the Keys. "It doesn't seem to be something that people here think about." ……….

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22 posted on 04/29/2012 1:42:08 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Dan Nunn
Just sent my CC renewal out yesterday...

$65.00 and the cost of a passport photo...

Well worth it..

23 posted on 04/29/2012 1:57:19 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: Joe Brower
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I emailed Bob Buckhorn expressing my dismay over the request. I at least got a response from the chief of staff.

Thank you for contacting Mayor Buckhorn. I will be sure he sees your message and I know he will appreciate you taking the time to write to share your views with him regarding the proposed Clean Zone during the Republican National Convention.

AKA, "piss off."

24 posted on 04/29/2012 2:00:57 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: PapaBear3625
Lefties saying they are getting guns and CCW in case the “teabaggers” get in their faces.

Lemme get this straight...

So, the Leftists are threatening to murder people who simply disagree with them - innocent, law abiding Americans who are not threatening them with sexual assault, severe bodily harm, or death but only a political disagreement?

These Leftist aren't peaceable people, simply yearning to breath free and mind their own business. There is no way any of these nuts should be issued a CCW. They are a looming public threat and need to be watched closely by the authorites!

25 posted on 04/29/2012 4:02:35 PM PDT by Gritty (Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they want a war let it begin here-Capt. John Parker, Lexington)
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To: marktwain

You’re right. They’ve lost the fundamental nut of the issue, ie, “do people, as individuals, have the *right* to own guns?”

That has been answered in the affirmative. So now they’re going to try to move from making it against the law to being merely unethical to own guns. To do this, they have to express surprise, horror, shock, revulsion, etc that people outside those who they were ridiculing for standing up for the RKBA (old, fat, white males) would join the Old, Fat, White Males in ownership of guns.

I rather suspect that new gun owners didn’t just wake up one day and say “You know what I want? I want a S&W snubby! I hope it comes in at least three flavors!”

No, the new gun ownership is coming to the decision to own a gun because they look around and realize that the police a) have no duty to protect them, b) that many LEO’s are fundamentally and deeply corrupt, and c) when the danger in right in front of them and seconds count, the LEO’s are only minutes away.

I, for one, welcome these new gun owners into our groups, and I would recommend that other OFWG’s welcome the new gun owners too.


26 posted on 04/29/2012 6:59:38 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: dirtboy

“It was only 20 years ago that the position on the left was about keeping guns out of the hands of the law abiding.”

It still is. They are just changing the narrative, not the goal.


27 posted on 04/29/2012 7:34:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: marktwain
Yesterday, I presented a program on a pair of 1946 freight train wrecks to a gathering of retired railroaders and telegraphers. A special moment was the introduction of my guest: a lady who was the daughter of the fireman on one of the wrecks.

Afterward, she handed my wife her digital camera and asked her to snap a couple of pix of us together. She stepped up beside me and slipped her arm around my waist and I draped mine over her shoulders. (FWIW, I'm in my 70s and she is in her 80s...)

When her hand reached my right side, she encountered my holstered HK through my sport coat, gave it a couple of pats, and quickly moved her hand away.

In that photo she had a surprised look on her face...

When I said, "Yep, that's what you think it is.", she quipped, "My husband's carrying too -- now I feel twice as safe!"

In that photo we both had big grins on our faces.. ;-)

~~~~~~~

I didn't feel it necessary to inform her that my wife was also packing... '-)

Texas ladies -- love 'em!! :-)

28 posted on 04/29/2012 8:40:29 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: Atlantan

She got the one guy, who first pointed a gun at her. Probably didn’t get the second one. I wonder if the police managed to ID and arrest him as well.

I think the charge should have been attempted murder rather than attempted armed robbery. He did shoot at her after all... only to get gut shot himself. But that’s the risk robbers take were civilians are armed.


29 posted on 04/29/2012 10:17:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Gritty
Lemme get this straight... So, the Leftists are threatening to murder people who simply disagree with them - innocent, law abiding Americans who are not threatening them with sexual assault, severe bodily harm, or death but only a political disagreement?

Here's one of the more extreme comments from the TampaBay.com comments section:

from rickscottisafascist4

All teabaggers are lying, wholly self serving traitors. Don't believe a word he says. And if he gets even remotely aggressive with you, put a gun in his face, before he puts one in yours. They've done it before and after November, you can bet your life the teabaggers will turn violent again.


30 posted on 04/30/2012 4:58:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

From the quoted comment: “They’ve done it before and after November, you can bet your life the teabaggers will turn violent again.”

I wonder if this poster could provide the source that documents this statement as fact. I bet NOT.

It sure is convenient to create your own history to make a point that advances your agenda.


31 posted on 04/30/2012 7:00:07 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Liberals vote the way they feel, conservatives vote the way they think. NRA <BCC><)
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To: Dan Nunn
Ooops! I stand corrected. Still it is a bit eerie.
32 posted on 04/30/2012 9:28:24 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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