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ATF & U.S. DOJ Plan to Remove CLEO Signature Requirement for NFA Firearms Transfers
Ammoland ^ | 27 April, 2012 | CalGunLaws.com

Posted on 04/27/2012 7:17:00 AM PDT by marktwain

San Diego, CA --(Ammoland.com)- According to the National Firearms Act Trade & Collectors Association, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) are preparing to remove the often burdensome Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) signature requirement from Form 1 and Form 4 for NFA firearms. (see article here)

“NFA firearms” are highly regulated devices meeting the specific and somewhat counter-intuitive definition of “firearm” as that term is defined under the federal National Firearms Act (NFA). These “firearms” include machineguns, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, destructive devices, silencers, and “any other weapons,” as that phrase is defined by the NFA. http://nfatca.org/

To lawfully possess any of these devices, one must register it with the federal government. And to make or transfer such devices, one must first submit Forms 1 and 4 to the ATF requesting approval to do so. Under the current requirements, those forms must be signed by the local CLEO where the intended recipient of the NFA firearm resides before ATF can give its approval.

A problem most Americans run into when attempting to make or acquire an NFA firearm is that most CLEOs are not too keen on signing the federal paperwork. Some outright refuse. And there is no way for the individual to compel the CLEO to sign.

In response to this, and as a way to get around a stubborn CLEO, NFA firearm enthusiasts who wanted to acquire these devices have created “NFA Trusts.” Federal law allows for the transfer of an NFA firearm to a trust without a CLEO signature. But NFA Trusts tend to be costly to set up and, if done incorrectly, can expose the trust members to federal criminal prosecution. And even if an individual is able to obtain an NFA firearm directly or through a trust, state laws and restrictions still apply.

Even if a person is the legal registered owner of an NFA firearm and in compliance with federal law, that person may nonetheless be subject to felony criminal prosecution under California law for possession of certain NFA firearms if they do not have a separate California permit. These permits for machineguns, destructive devices, and short-barreled shotguns and rifles, are practically impossible to get unless you are a member of, work closely with, or supply the military, law enforcement, or the entertainment industry. And silencers cannot be possessed by anyone other than certain military, law enforcement, and dealers/manufacturers licensed under the NFA.

The removal of the CLEO signature requirement opens a new door of personal defense options, especially for those Californians who wish to acquire “any other weapons” (AOWs).

Under the NFA, an AOW is any:

weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition.

Devices that fall under this definition include, among other things, disguised devices like pen-guns, cigarette lighter guns, knife guns, cane guns, umbrella guns, and handguns with a “second vertical handgrip.” Firearm models like the Serbu Super-Shorty and the Safety Harbor KEG12 are also considered AOWs.

While some AOWs technically meet the definition of certain firearms prohibited under California law – e.g., “camouflaging firearm container,” “cane gun,” “firearm not immediately recognizable as a firearm,” “wallet gun,” “short-barreled shotgun” (California’s definition of short-barreled shotgun is much more expansive than the federal definition, including any firearm designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell meeting certain length requirements (Cal. Penal Code § 17180)) — as “generally prohibited weapons,” they are expressly exempted if possessed by a person permitted to possess them under the federal Gun Control Act (oddly, the California exemption references the Gun Control Act and not the NFA. The GCA generally governs the transfer, commerce, and transportation of common firearms, and makes no reference to “any other weapons”). So, if a person can lawfully acquire an AOW under federal law, he or she should be protected from prosecution for possession of one of the “generally prohibited weapons” under California law.

A word of caution for Californians: While lawful possession of AOWs under federal law provides protection against prosecution for California’s restriction on “generally prohibited weapons,” it does not extend that protection to prosecutions for possession or restrictions on “assault weapons,” .50 BMG rifles, “unsafe handguns,” etc.

Make absolutely certain you and the device you are purchasing are compliant with California law before acquiring or possessing such devices.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; classiii; cleo
California gun laws are arcane, vague, and difficult to understand, but with a little care, firearms can be transported into and out of the State with minimal legal risk.
1 posted on 04/27/2012 7:17:09 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
So, this ruling is all about the Failed State of California and has no practical application anywhere else. In normal states except Illinois, CLEO's almost always sign the transfer forms. End of silliness about the fruits and nuts in California, the first Failed State in the United Failed States.

Once again, California leads the way for Illinois and Massachusetts

2 posted on 04/27/2012 7:29:17 AM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: marktwain

I expect to see alot of ‘vote buying’ attempts between now and November.


3 posted on 04/27/2012 7:46:23 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: STD

“Once again, California leads the way for Illinois and Massachusetts”

Don’t forget New York.


4 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:13 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: marktwain

How about doing away with it for C&R License holders, too. It’s none of my local Police Chiefs business that I collect antique militaria.


5 posted on 04/27/2012 8:26:46 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: marktwain

I smell a BATF trap.


6 posted on 04/27/2012 8:31:04 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: fella
I smell a BATF trap.

I agree.

This is the federalization of firearm sales, removing the state and local community from the process.

Yes, it sounds like simplification until they say "no".

7 posted on 04/27/2012 9:56:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: STD

Not exactly, no. I live in Virginia, and it takes a month or more for my local sheriff (Fairfax County) to sign and return the forms. And one time, they didn’t even fill one out all the way.

If this is true (and that’s a BIG IF), it would eliminate one of the time-consuming steps.


8 posted on 04/27/2012 10:20:44 AM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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