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To: fieldmarshaldj; EternalVigilance
American Politics are based only very loosely on ideology. There is no difference in ideology between a right wing Democrat and a Republican.

The "Fundamentalist" vote, for example, was at one time solidly Democrat. The Black vote was solidly Republican. The Democrats were the party of segregation.

The great dichotomy in political thought, American Style, is the paired-question ,

Is It The Government's Job To 'Help' People?"
Is the Government's Job to Run The Country Efficiently and Economically So People Can Best Take Care of Themselves?"

The election of Obama by a popular majority in 2008 gave us a very powerful example of the majority's answer to that question.

The RINO Equation is to tell people "WE, i.e., that's US, folks, can take better care of you more efficiently than those spendthrift Democrats with their weak, queer-loving family values, and we're more patriotic. The public's answer to that is often,
"Well, we might as get a Real Democrat!"

Enter you guys. Your job is not to convince me of your excellent Conservative bona fides, but to answer my question,

You're going to sell this to the video-gamer tattooed fatties in the Wal-Mart Parking Lot and get their vote how?"

If Romney becomes the nominee, and can get the vote of the stupid to get The Mombasa MF out, more power to him. I'll do my damndest to surround him with Conservatives in Congress. The cure to this Depression, and the Socialist Damage wrought by Team Obama is going to take one hell of a lot more than one election to fix; elections that must be won.

Spare me apocalyptic "Shiite" conservatism. You ain't gonna fix anything by blowing up the system ... or what's worse ... Third Partying Obama back into public housing.

318 posted on 04/29/2012 10:40:47 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: BlackElk
Painful Ping

The lesson of Bill Buckley:

"Conservative" Constitutional ideology is indeed the province of the Thinking Person. We persons rarely number enough to win an election, and most often have scant luck attracting the less intelligent to the cause of voting with enlightened self interest .... well, because they are not enlightened, perhaps even incapable of achieving it. YTet they have the franchise.

So what can Conservatives do to influence the government policies of those candidates who do win elections? Bill's answer was to have us fight for Congressional Representation, and perhaps more important, to fight for every local and state post. The other battlefield is the courtroom.

Democracy means (and has always meant) the electorate's choice of the better (or lesser) of two evils ... which hopefully coincides with my (or your) idea ... especially our brand of democracy, which btw, no one said was guaranteed to last forever. And before you chime in with "But we're a Republic!" Just remember that we chose to become one by democratic means.

319 posted on 04/29/2012 11:03:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk; fieldmarshaldj; BlackElk; Steve Schulin; Gelato; wagglebee
You're going to sell this to the video-gamer tattooed fatties in the Wal-Mart Parking Lot and get their vote how?"

Shoot, you can't even get the votes of the base of the Republican Party for this socialist pro-choice democrat and you're worried about Obama voters?

Typical Romney Republican thinking.

320 posted on 04/29/2012 12:10:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You canÂ’t be both. Pick one.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I'll do my damndest to surround him with Conservatives in Congress.

A) You can't trust Romney Republicans to even know what conservatism is, much less who is a real conservative and who is just another liar.

B) Romney's money and his growing control over the GOP is already being used to load Congress with even more unprincipled Romney Republicans.

321 posted on 04/29/2012 12:19:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You canÂ’t be both. Pick one.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

WTF is a “right-wing Democrat” ? And why in the hell would I want to help someone whom is the most execrable con-artist the GOP has ever put up ? I already know what he did as Governor, I was watching him closely and he was absolutely horrible ! Voting Third Party is not only the smart thing to do, it’s the only ethical and moral way to go if you’re a Conservative.

You proceed from a false assumption that Conservatives will be able to keep Slick Willard in line. That is hillarious. He has no use for Conservatives, beyond suckering those stupid enough to fall for him for their votes. His mama hated Conservatives. His daddy hated Conservatives. He hates Conservatives. He’s gonna do what he wants when he wants, and if it screws Conservatives, all the better. I don’t want that thing anywhere near the White House. Period.


322 posted on 04/29/2012 12:29:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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