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To: Longbow1969

I am not blaming the management for the what happened on the Perry threads.

I am just pointing out where we are, but Perry got raped while he was not on his best game.

but he aint a quitter and he isnt vindictive.
IMHO he is just what is needed from a POTUS, steadfast.

Many will rip him apart, but the guy is steadfast
Has he made mistakes? Sure!

But 98% of the time he is right on top of what the electorate wants.

The few things he was criticized for like “instate tuition for illegals” where beyond his control. It was unvetoable.

Beyond all that it was an untenable position foisted on the state by the Feds

I find it preposterous that people used that to tear Perry apart. The man was making the case that the Feds were raping the states, but people are so stupid that they declared Perry is the very reason that illegal immigration exists!


1,588 posted on 04/28/2012 10:35:09 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
The few things he was criticized for like “instate tuition for illegals” where beyond his control. It was unvetoable.

Except that Perry didn't just say that. He also called critics of the policy heartless. Which means he agreed with it in his own heart.

That fits into my previous points to you about Perry not being ready for this run. Perry could have positioned his signing of the bill as carrying out the will of his constituents. But by ripping into those nationally who disagreed with the concept, he basically alienated those he needed to sway over to his side, and also showed support for the bill fit in with his own personal beliefs. That was a lethal double-blow from which he never recovered. He hadn't thought that one out, IMO. Which shows a lack of preparation and analysis about the office he was running for.

1,593 posted on 04/28/2012 10:40:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: mylife

I agree with your comments. I have pointed out that I don’t think FR’s mods/admins could have done much about it because I saw it happen elsewhere too. And I never even saw the slightest indication that the powers that be on FR were officially anti-Perry in anyway. I just think they got swamped and determined the only thing to do was let the tide of anti-Perry hate wash away over time.

This was a unique situation that had more to do with Palin’s supporters (and there was LOTS of them on forums like this) viewing Perry as her primary conservative opposition. They were sure Sarah was running (her frequent bus tours added to this illusion), so they marched into battle en’masse to destroy Perry and clear the field for their candidate (who ended up letting them all down and not running anyway). Don’t underestimate the impact Sarah’s indecisiveness caused on this GOP primary cycle. It also was a contributing factor for why the conservative base stayed split for long. Imagine if Palin had announced in May she wasn’t running. Perry could have perhaps been stronger and united more of the base, maybe other conservatives might have entered the race, etc. Palin’s shadow over the field, and die hard supporters who refused to consider any other option (some still won’t and many have fantasies she will still “jump in the race”) seriously and adversely effected the GOP primary cycle this time around.


1,597 posted on 04/28/2012 10:48:41 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: mylife
The few things he was criticized for like “instate tuition for illegals” where beyond his control. It was unvetoable.

That may be true but his calling me "heartless" for opposing it was NOT inevitable and that's where he lost me!

If Rick Perry had stuck to the issues he so brilliantly wrote of in his book instead of listening to high powered political consultants like Dave Carney he would be our Republican nominee today!

1,606 posted on 04/28/2012 10:58:54 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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