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To: lbryce
If I look at this logically, I see only three options: the universe is eternal, which according the the mathematics of eternity it is not, there is something greater than the universe which is eternal that brought forth the universe, or the universe itself sprung out of nothingness. This really boils down to one option: there has to be an uncaused cause (cause and effect).
30 posted on 04/26/2012 8:26:49 PM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kosciusko51
If I look at this logically, I see only three options: the universe is eternal, which according the the mathematics of eternity it is not, there is something greater than the universe which is eternal that brought forth the universe, or the universe itself sprung out of nothingness. This really boils down to one option: there has to be an uncaused cause (cause and effect).

I am working my way through this concept in the Sunday School class I teach. It took us three weeks to get the class to understand this logical conclusion. They have never been challenged to consider their Christianity through the prism of logic and reason, yet they are coming to understand that logic and reason lead us to God, not away from Him.

60 posted on 04/26/2012 9:00:39 PM PDT by Can i say that here?
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