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To: Longbow1969
Also, I'd like Newt to come out of this with some credibility, dignity and ability to influence people intact.

Since when did it become a bad sign to fight to the end. I want Newt to fight till the bitter end to stop the two socialist who want to wreck our country. I for one am glad that Colonel Travis or George Washington never employed such realism.
49 posted on 04/24/2012 7:58:44 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Certainty of death. Small chance of success what are we waiting for. Gimili - Lord of the Rings)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Since when did it become a bad sign to fight to the end. I want Newt to fight till the bitter end to stop the two socialist who want to wreck our country.

The end has passed. It's like when a professional football team is down 48-0 in the 4th quarter with 5 minutes left. You pull your best players and don't risk injury because there is no possible way to win the game. You live to fight another day. There is no math that makes Newt the nominee. There is no serious path to stopping Romney from getting the delegates he needs. Newt is not running a real campaign now and hasn't been for awhile. He is collecting cash from people to help pay down his debt, and running around trying to enjoy the spotlight before it fades away.

51 posted on 04/24/2012 8:09:48 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

George Washington won because he fought in the right places at the right time. Fighting to the bitter end in the wrong places, or fighting in the wrong time and place, can destroy your campaign.

Newt is Braxton Bragg. Taking soldiers, men, manpower and money, holding what wasn’t going to be lost and taking them away from Lee, when he needed every man he could get. Sure, the odds were against Lee, but you need to put the manpower where it can actually defeat the enemy, not waste them elsewhere with Bragg.

Now that Lee was defeated in PA, Bragg holds GA and SC, but he will be utterly crushed. Defeat at this point is inevitable. Thanks Newt.


52 posted on 04/24/2012 8:12:03 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Read a history book. Do not put Travis and Washington in the same sentence. Washington was a realist, that is why he won after a long brilliant campaign. He knew his resources and planned a strategy of keeping his army alive. He used the vastness of North America to defeat one of the 18th centuries finest militaries. Travis on the other hand was massacred by a peasant conscript army that had just marched through a dessert and was on the verge of starving to death. When it comes to adversaries, Santa Anna was not even in the same league as Howe and Clinton. Houston followed the Washington model, not the Travis stupidity.
59 posted on 04/24/2012 8:45:29 PM PDT by gusty
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