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A New Trend “Sneaking up on People” (US Mfg Revival)
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 4-23-2012 | Chris Mayer

Posted on 04/23/2012 2:48:46 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 04/23/2012 2:48:51 PM PDT by blam
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china’s edge: treating people like drones. look how it all falls apart when they demand to be treated like humans.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 2:51:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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Just so long as Unions don’t scuttle it.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 2:55:21 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Scott = Free Traitor.


4 posted on 04/23/2012 2:59:28 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: blam

Interesting. BFLR


5 posted on 04/23/2012 3:04:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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“Things are getting expensive in China, pure and simple,” Scott told me. “Labor costs have gone up substantially in China. That’s not a mystery to anybody.

But they never, or almost never, tell us to what level those 'expensive' wages have reached in China. One article I read several months back said minimum wage in some areas of China was now $1.59. Guess the Chinese are no longer willing to work for $.50 an hour, but many in Cambodia and Vietnam still are.

More specifics on those production costs would be informative, but they just rarely provide any specifics.

6 posted on 04/23/2012 3:41:31 PM PDT by Will88
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No. He’s a survivor. When the industry dies is he supposed to just cash it in?


7 posted on 04/23/2012 3:47:55 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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No. He’s a survivor. When the industry dies is he supposed to just cash it in?

No industries that moved to the slave labor world were dying. That is myth. All it took was to make a few MORE cents on the dollar and it was screw the USA hello commies. The man deals with commies in a daily basis and has no problem with that.

There are 22 Right-To-Work states to move to also. He is a traitor and I hope he never comes back.

8 posted on 04/23/2012 3:52:19 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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No industries that moved to the slave labor world were dying. That is myth. All it took was to make a few MORE cents on the dollar and it was screw the USA hello commies. The man deals with commies in a daily basis and has no problem with that.

There are 22 Right-To-Work states to move to also. He is a traitor and I hope he never comes back.

You got it backwards. The promise of free traders was that Americans would have the advantage of technology (robots and the like) and use advanced technology to compete against cheap foreign labor competition. Well in the meantime both Republicans and Deomcrats opened the borders to cheap immigrant labor. This cheap labor undercut our businesses who would have otherwise invested in technology like Scot now sees in Chicago. The concept of free trade is sound. Unequal application to the rules is a problem. Illegal immgration is unfavorable to America. The Value Added Tax applied to American goods while at the same time we do not put an equivalent tarrif on foreign goods is another unfavorable practice. Thank your trade negotiators from both parties for our screwing.

9 posted on 04/23/2012 4:14:57 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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Half the population with IQ’s below 100 could work and survive when we had a manufacturing base. Now they just suck off the teat. The national defense, social, political and economic problems caused by free trade are not out weighed by saving a few pennies on the dollar at retail. That’s the way I see it, the whole thing is insane.


10 posted on 04/23/2012 4:22:35 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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It’s not all about labor rates. It’s about regulation. OSHA, EPA and taxation of captital. Industries like plastic injection molding and metal stamping were disfavored in all these areas and year after year became less competitive on a world scale. I lived it as a machine tool distributor. Every year I lost customers as more of them went out of business and the remainders downsized.


11 posted on 04/23/2012 4:31:14 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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Scott = Free Traitor.

Boy, you authoritarian types (you know who you are, the ones who want government to regulate us for our own "best interests") sure do have a beef against freedom, don't you. To call anyone who favors freedom a "traitor" is not conservative.

Why don't you just go change your registration to Democrat and be done with it if you can't stand freedom.

12 posted on 04/23/2012 4:43:55 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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Scott lives in China and does business with Communists while undercutting the USA destroying the manufacturing base forever, and to think Jane Fonda got a bad reputation. KMA. None are so blind that will not see.


13 posted on 04/23/2012 4:51:02 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: blam
Gee, you mean economics is cyclical?

Who would have ever thought it?

14 posted on 04/23/2012 4:52:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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Half the population with IQ’s below 100 could work and survive when we had a manufacturing base. Now they just suck off the teat. The national defense, social, political and economic problems caused by free trade are not out weighed by saving a few pennies on the dollar at retail.

There will be a resurgence in manufacturing in the US, BUT there won't be that many jobs. Technology has been the prime reason for the drop in manufacturing jobs -- not free trade. That trend will continue.

15 posted on 04/23/2012 4:55:58 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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You union thugs all sound alike.


16 posted on 04/23/2012 4:57:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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where people would take machines from the U.S., disassemble them and ship them to China.”

When I was fighting against NAFTA, one of the things I found out was the export-to-Mexico figures the govt were boasting about included the value of the machines that were pulled out of our factories and shipped down there.

17 posted on 04/23/2012 5:36:07 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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When I was fighting against NAFTA, one of the things I found out was the export-to-Mexico figures the govt were boasting about included the value of the machines that were pulled out of our factories and shipped down there.

Many of the machines my customer (companies) sent to Mexico were basically no longer legal to operate within the United States due to changing OSHA regulations. The guarding requirements were so stringent and the controls were basically too obsolete to accept the more flexible point-of-operation guards.

Sometimes those machines were replaced by more modern, and productive machines. But it wasn't a one-for-one trade. Usually 3 or 4 obsolete machines were replaced by a single machine. Meaning 3 press operators (per shift) lost their jobs.

18 posted on 04/23/2012 7:02:58 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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OSHA, EPA and taxation of captital

So you BELIEVE that if OSHA and the EPA didn't exist the sellout of us industries over the last 20 years would have played out differently? You are full of it. I would get rid of both of those agencies but doing that would have no effect on the sell out. EPA and OSHA are perfect scapegoats for the GLO-BULL-IST

19 posted on 04/24/2012 3:48:31 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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I’ll overlook the personal attack... this time. I’m not saying that you are incorrect. Only that your explanation is incomplete. I’m offering you the extra pieces to the puzzle.

Incidentally, the impulse for globalizing industry & trade was spurred to prevent increasingly destructive World Wars. Helping Europe & Japan re-industrialize after WW2, for example, was a way to prevent their societies from being de-stabilized by extremists. In those cases we were wildly successful (in security terms). Unfortunately, we kept following that model in parts of the world that do not share basic Western values. These attempts have been failures.


20 posted on 04/24/2012 3:59:09 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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