Posted on 04/21/2012 6:10:36 AM PDT by kevcol
I disagree. I think Zimmerman will be acquitted and everyone involved in this case knows it. They are simply trying to string out the case until the political content evaporates and then they will drop charges at 11:59 PM on a Friday night.
Most likely scenario is that the investigation will be strung out into 2013 and then simply dropped. Perhaps as people are watching a hurricane come in.
The politicians who have been hyping this case have suddenly become very quiet and I think they have been told that this dog will not hunt.
I agree.
“2. If the powder traces show that the muzzle blast was very close, Martin was on top of him.”
The judge asked the investigator yesterday, the distance of the shot and he said ‘very close proximity’, gun powder residue on the sweatshirt.
>Here’s the thing: These will be riots that that non-rioters will be expecting and prepared for.
I do hope that it will be legal to double tap any rioters that threaten any innocents. A shoot on sight against looters
would also be a good teaching opportunity.
Wow.
By the time this is done the Martin family’s lawyer should be sitting in jail and George Zimmerman should be a rich man.
Unbelievable!
If it goes to trial, and Zimmerman is acquitted, then perhaps. But if the charges are dropped, Florida law grants him immunity.
The article refers to getting him arrested as "first base" for Crump. It establishes probable cause, enabling lawsuits. "Second base" is the hearing on whether the case should go forward. If Zimmerman wins that, Crump loses.
I'm not sure the account I am looking at is DeeDee, but it comes much closer to a match than the one Conservative Treehouse has adopted.
I read an account that there is gunpowder residue on Zimmerman’s clothing too.
No, that was another fabrication from ABC. If you read the whole blog page that’s the source for this post you’ll see that ABC is in deep, deep doo-doo.
Somebody should do a voice analysis of the ABC “interview” with “Dee Dee”, to see if the voice before the break to the ABC reporter is the same voice as the one after the break (the voice which claims she heard the confrontation).
And somebody should check out what ABC has to say about the 911 call from Trayvon’s phone on March 2nd when Martin was dead but 16 days before Trayvon’s dad says he was able to get into TRayvon’s phone.
I’d also like to know why Trayvon’s dad had TRayvon’s phone if it was on TRayvon’s person when he died. Whether it was found by the police or by the coroner, I would have thought it would be submitted as evidence in the case.
Way, way too many discrepancies, and it sure seems like ABC is in the middle of them all. I wonder if even one percent of what ABC has presented is actually genuine.
At the beginning of the article, the author recommends reading updates 9 and 10-pt1. It really is essential to understanding the whole story.
I read either today or yesterday (sorry I don’t have source) that gunpowder burns were visible on Martin’s sweatshirt/hoodie whatever it’s called.
I’ve been reading on FR and another site.
If I can find the source I’ll post it to you.
If you read everything on that blog page it makes sense that the whole thing was a financial scam from the very beginning, although the financial aspect of it most likely came from the 2 filthy attorneys for the Martin family. Seems like maybe they have a history of this kind of scam.
Hopefully by the end of all this they will be sitting in jail...
Thing is, it sure looks like the prosecution is playing along with their financial scheme. The blog author points out that the affidavit of probable cause only cites the “friend” as saying that Trayvon said he was being followed - which is the only part from ABC’s “interview” which was in a girl’s voice, according to the blog author. If there really were 2 different voices in that interview and Crump and ABC conspired to make it appear that all of it was from the girl, it also looks like the prosecutor knew not to include in the affidavit the other stuff that was really from the other voice.
This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
“why didn’t the kid call ANYONE??? Bogus.”
Why ask me? I don’t know! 8^)
SHe must be a crack ho or something, because how can these people pull so many lawyers and resources out of their hat like this, in support of the prosecution, is unbelievable.
I go see lawyers for my personal business and they drag feet, they never like my views and they constantly betray me and refuse my proposals for getting additional funds.
So, this is manipulated horse crap from day 1.
Given the liberalness of Romney and the Zimmerman case, I see a plot whereby the GOP-E is going to be ambushed.
Romney is going to be portrayed as pro-slavery white GOP conservative CEO, while anybody with a gun will be attacked by Romney in order to placate the perception that whoever has a gun in self defense must be a white retard of embarassment.
Romney is going to be a disaster. This is all being shaped to be that even if a black kills in self defense another black, Romney and the liberals will be placated into calling the one with the gun as white racist.
And this is the same people who want to keep disarmed black people on a plantation treatment who will call us racist and having caused slavery.
This is a really sick convoluted rhetoric, but it is amazing no one has yet caught on it.
Given how antigun Romney has been, I frankly do not think he will win, because liberals will keep screaming to unions that he is antigun and they will scream to jews and blacks he is an evil CEO antisemite converting jews after they die etc.. watch it.
Romney is DOA as a candidate and pretty much well planned as a Mormon to bring distate to Jews, blacks, conservatives and blue dog gun totting Union democrates who can vote Republican and display pride on 911 commemoratives. Watch it.
911 is being forgotten over all this crap to the benefit of the terrorist in office.
Something I just realized. Didn’t the prosecutor admit yesterday that they have no evidence to support the claim that Zimmerman confronted Martin? If so, then they are specifically NOT using what was in the latter part of the Dee-Dee “interview” where it was claimed that Trayvon had apparently been pushed.
If that was really part of the interview with the girl, then why would they not use that, just like they used her claims about Trayvon being scared?
What I don’t understand is how the prosecutors - who are supposed to tell the WHOLE truth and disclose any evidence that refutes their claims - can get away with not saying that the 911 caller said it was Zimmerman calling for help, or a myriad of other pieces of evidence that strongly refute the claims in that probable cause affidavit.
This whole thing just really, REALLY stinks.
I know the MSM claims she has a story, but the point was the defense only gets to confront what they say in the trial not in the grand jury. Even if it’s in the grand jury testimony it can’t be brought up unless the person is called at the trial and then it’s tough for the defense to get it see: State v. Jose Alfaro: Obtaining Secret Grand Jury Testimony
I agree with you, but I would further define “black culture” to be “black trash culture”. There are trash cultures in every race. Of course it is not racist to recognize the trashy elements of any race. To do otherwise would be to walk around with blinders on and get yourself into trouble.
People need to know this is what it’s all really about, for the lawyers and possibly the Martin family. I had no idea that an arrest is the start of the civil lawsuits. That makes the standards for probable cause CRITICAL for the government to protect individuals from legal financial harassment.
Which is important also because the Islamists intend to break our wills by financially harassing people through the courts. So the standards of evidence for probable cause MUST be upheld.
My theory on that is that the 911 call is the Sanford Police calling themselves in order to discover the phone's number. If the phone was passworded, the police would not have been able to examine its directory entries and logs without first breaking the password. However, passworded phones can be used to call 911 without entering the password. If I'm correct, it's odd that it took them until 2 March to get around to it.
I wondered about that too. The cops were still in the area into the wee hours of the morning. How did everybody in Tracy’s household not notice anything? Especially since they didn’t know where Trayvon was and he had been brought to Sanford specifically because he needed to get his attitude re-adjusted after being suspended from school over various things. A 2-week suspension from school is enough to make a kid flunk all his classes; this wasn’t peanuts. None of the reports are clear as to exactly what he was suspended for all 3 times; the Martin family lawyer claimed there were 3 suspensions, one for graffiti and one for drugs but nobody would say what the 3rd was for, or when it was.
How did you find these tweets? Who’s the tweeter? And IF it’s someone who knew Trayvon, is it necessarily “DeeDee”?
At this stage is all about the Benjamins. Stacks and stacks of Benjamins via civil suits the bottom feeder lawyers Crump&Co. has planned for the Zimmerman family and the homeowners association. Maybe even the gun manufacturer and the gun store
Any lie will be told when millions are at stake. Personally....I think Crump will fail. un-Black people are getting educated about this race grievance industry
Yes, but my point is that the prosecution uses “Deedee’s” testimony in the affidavit.
If the police had the phone as evidence from the scene, then how did Tracy get the phone later? Don’t they have to keep evidence?
There’s speculation that there are two different female voices on the abc “Deedee” video. (00:56)
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017
I was searching for tweets by @InsanelyDopeex3, based on a post somewhere that said @InsanelyDopeex3 was DeeDee. I ran into a different handle and just followed the lead.
-- IF it's someone who knew Trayvon, is it necessarily "DeeDee"? --
No, it's not. Which is why I've kept my findings to myself, more or less. My comment was just that the handle I'm reading has more signs of attachment to Trayvon (not as BFF/mate, just lots of sadness, fond memories, etc.) than Daisha Mitchell as @iAdoree_Dee or Daisha Brianne as @x_FashionObsess.
These are some remarks I culled out of many pages of @_LoveThyLondon tweets, when I looked back on the 16th of April.
To a lot of people "Trayvon Martin" is just a case, but to me he was my friend, he was apart of my daily life . 24 MarI couldn't go back any farther than Feb 29, unfortunately.I cannot imagine what Tray's girlfriend is going thru, cause if i ever lost my baby, i'd LOSE it . 22 Mar
bol. this kid at CC never liked tray cause he used to rank his shoes, bol that's my tray 22 Mar
#IrememberThatMomentWithTray when i used to hug him EVERY morning after 1st period... R.i.p Honey <3 22 Mar
#IRememberThatMomentWithTray when we ALWAYS cheated off of @EatYhurBrainz's papers in Spanish 22 Mar
This is the 2nd friend i've lost within about 6 months.. R.I.P Jeff && R.I.P Tray, i love you BOTH very dearly <3 19 Mar
i cannot stop lookin at Trayvon's number in my phone ... :/ damn i miss you #RIPTRAYVONMARTIN 18 Mar
since he's "supposedly" using his twitter now, ya'll go follow my boyfriend @18twan (: 16 Mar
[ cboldt remark: ---- seems lot of pickup in Trayvon tweets 15 March]
Only reason I went to bed last night is because I got locked up :/ 14 Mar
MY BIRTHDAY IS EXACTLY 6 MONTHS FROM TODAY (: 14 Mar
Happy 24th birthday to my older brother @Kenfolk305 , love u and i wish u A TRILLION more 14 Mar
i'm able to truly say that my boyfriend IS my best friend as well ... 12 Mar
thinkinq about chanqin my twitter name ... 11 Mar
Me and my best friend @Dashinqalldaway have been qoin for almost 12 years now, I love my Ace <33 7 Mar
@RIP_TRAY9 okayy thanks,, i appreciate it,, & im srry for your loss .. <3
In reply to TRAY'S BIG BRUH Hide conversation@RIP_TRAY9 hi, is Tray's viewinq qonna be tmrw ? 1 Mar
@JetMan_Twin hey, when is Tray's funeral and viewing gona be ? 1 Mar
:/// i miss that man,, so much ... 29 Feb
smh ... i'm takin this really hard tonight ... :/ 29 Feb
I read an account that there is gunpowder residue on Zimmerman’s clothing too.
First I have seen on that.
Blowback perhaps? No idea what type of weapon Zimmerman had, but if you shoot someone/something from close enough you can often get residue back scattering.
Their nightmare scenario would be for whites to get sufficiently fed up that all the white guilt evaporates, leaving a residue of anger and contempt.
KelTec 9mm. One round fired, next round did not chamber, so slide didn't cycle all the way.
Martin's clothing and flesh were burned; Zimmerman's clothing had powder residue.
-- but if you shoot someone/something from close enough you can often get residue back scattering. --
Yep. I figure the point was that Zimmerman hadn't fired on a 3 or 4 foot distant target, and my impression is he did not have his arm extended. All the forensic evidence is consistent with a close quarters shot.
That’s a statement to the DA by DeeDee. There never has been a grand jury. If the DA were really really incompetent it could be something the DA saw in the media or got third hand from the Martin’s attorney. That’s not likely.
That’s a far different picture than the one the media displays 24/7.
Attorneys for Martin’s family said it wasn’t until weeks later, when Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, was looking through the teen’s cell phone bill that he noticed the timing of the last call. The family and their attorneys then contacted Trayvon’s girlfriend and heard her account of the night. Lawyer Benjamin Crump, who represents the family, recorded an interview with the girl and provided it with Martin’s cell phone records to federal authorities, who by then had joined the investigation.
Yes, one would expect to find powder residue on the shooter.
Both sides, when you think about it. But Martin's family lost their cool at de courthouse when the farcical nature of this mau mau became pathetically clear.
UPDATE: Tallahassee, FL - March 20, 2012
Federal and local prosecutors are launching parallel investigations into the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a neighborhood watch captain as outrage over the case grows.
(snip)
According to the source close to the investigation, authorities have a subpoena for Martin’s phone records and are waiting to electronically unlock the phone. Neither the teenage girl nor her parents came forward to offer details to police in the three weeks since the shooting, despite a public plea for information, the source said.
Several investigators don’t believe Zimmerman turned back to his car but instead tried to confront or even detain Martin until police arrived, the source said, but police don’t have any evidence to prove that. Police conducted a voice stress test two days after the shooting on Zimmerman, which he passed, the source said. Another one is expected to be conducted on him soon, the source said.
Zimmerman is staying at a secure location and has been in daily contact with authorities, the source said.
Crump said he plans to turn over information about the call to federal investigators who are looking into the case.
Trayvon's father reported that the police told him what Zimmerman had said, namely that Trayvon came up to him twice, once when he was in his vehicle and again after he had left the vehicle. Trayvon's father said he thought Zimmerman was lying.
What more evidence do you need? Zimmerman is obviously guilty. You only need two witnesses to prove treason, and here we have three.
He didn't get the phone, he got the phone bill which indicated a number of calls on February 26th.
Thanks - Not one I am familiar with (only handgun I have ever had was an issue Browning 9 mm), but yeah, sounds like a combination of residue blowback from a target closer than 3 feet away and the partially open slide.
The L96 or AS50 are more my tools of choice, though they are significantly more difficult to carry in your waistband!
I’m sure you’re being sarcastic.
If the prosecutors had a duty to disclose all the evidence - even that which refutes their claim - then they are so negligent that it is criminal.
The March 22 one indicates she’s not DeeDee - where she says she can’t imagine what Tray’s girlfriend must be going through, because SHE’D be nuts if she lost her BF.
I don’t know how the other blog arrived at the person they have for Deedee, but if that really is Deedee then what you’ve got here underlines how odd it is that she was so aloof compared to this other friend (who is not Trayvon’s GF) - especially if she was his GF and was speaking to him when the confrontation began.
I just showed the picture to my kids who said at first “three” and then said, “There are two white guys in that picture.”
Here’s the letter from the Sanford City Manager, dated 3/23/12.
“When we got to the cries for help, that was when Sybrina burst into tears,” recalled Natalie Jackson. “She said, ‘That’s Trayvon. That’s our son.’ She ran out of the room crying.” “The mayor himself started to cry,” Jackson said. “Everybody in the room was in tears.”
These people, Sharpton, Jackson, Crump, etc, ALL of them, have become what the men in the white hoods were. No more need be said of them.
I'm not going to dismiss the possibility that @_LoveThyLondon is not DeeDee on that basis. There has been plenty of speculation that DeeDee was a close friend, but not "girlfriend" the way Crump states the relationship between DeeDee and Trayvon.
>if you shoot someone/something from close enough you can often get residue back scattering.
I can vouch for that. Shooting two .44 rounds through a tempered glass storm door from a few inches away left me with
the taste of H110 in my mouth for the whole week I was in jail.
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