[ReformationFan]

So should we support the Constitution Party?

[cripplecreek]

I’ll be voting to remove Debbie Stabenow but only because my choices are acceptable though imperfect.

With Romney, I have yet to find one conservative ideal that doesn’t need to be sacrificed for him.

[Turbo Pig]

I am not advocating Romney; I am advocating doing what is needed to ensure that obama is a one term president. Deal with the real and present danger now, deal with extrapolated threats when they arise.

[Don Corleone]

When making your choice factor this: Which party programs, ideas and actions are closer to Karl Marx or which are closer to the Constitution. Then the choice, although sometimes difficult becomes a bit easier.

[Hostage]

I have no reason to engage a debate with Romney supporters because they all think the same:

“Either you vote for Bullsh*t or you’re going to get Chicken sh*t.”

I say to Romney supporters:

“Eat Sh*t and Die!”

[Nervous Tick]

I haven’t supported the republican party since 2006.

Only individual candidates.

If you give the RNC money it gets flushed down the RINO sewer.

Anyway, I don’t need them to tell me who to support — I can decide all by myself.

[DNME]

I received a Republican questionnaire in the mail not long ago. The survey was addressed to me, which I found odd because I’m registered as “unenrolled” in Massachusetts.

I started filling out the survey, with such answers as “Tea Party” as my political leaning and yes I would vote for Romney if forced to but not willingly.

But then it occurred to me that the survey came from the BIG GOP and not the real, conservative, local sort of Republicans. The “elites” are the ones who shoved Romney down our throats and have no apparent love for Tea Party conservative thinking. Defeating the GOP-e strikes me as nearly as important as throwing out the Dems.

So the survey was tossed in the trash, uncompleted.

[Arthur McGowan]

Romney is going to be President. Conservatives are going to have to live with that fact, elect as many conservatives to the Congress, and hold Romney’s feet to the fire.

If he is not to be the nominee in 2016, the time to find the challenger is now—not three weeks before the end of the 2016 primary season.

[mo]

The Conservative Cause is clearly served by an Obama re-election rather than a Romney win.

A Right leaning/Conservative Congress can easily remain united behind an Obama re-election....whereas the same Congress will be sliced and diced by the RINOS if Romney is in the White House.

The Powers That Be fully understand this....

[Safrguns]

I think I would prefer to see Obama facing a republican congress that has the balls to remove him for fraud and solve our current constitutional crisis, rather than vote for Mitt Romney who is the father of the individual health care mandate.

[Thorliveshere]

Like and many others are saying, we need to institute the “Tea Party” as a political group, dump the GOPe. Period.

[Safrguns]

I don’t want Obama simply defeated in the polls.

I want him prosecuted for what he has done.

Vote him out of office, and that will never happen.

I want EVERYTHING Obama has signed into law and EVERY appointment he has made voided.

[Safrguns]

If Romney is the GOP nominee, I will no longer be a republican.

[elpadre]

if conservatives are the instruments causing Obama to have four more years, then that is the end of conservatism in the USA as a viable political entity. And not because Obama himself will have any thing to do with the death, but because the American people will turn their back. People don't like or want Obama back.

And don't tell me I'm not conservative. I have been since most of you were born. It is ingrained in my very being. We have always been our own worst enemy.

[CharacterCounts]

Republican Party insiders still can’t come to grips with the reality that the rebellion of the small government constitutional conservatives of the Tea Party is as much a rejection of their stewardship of the government – the earmarks and massive spending and debt of the Bush years – as it is a rejection of Obamacare and Obamanomics.

I think the Republican party has begun to understand this. However, instead of attempting to regain conservatives trust, they have decided to oppose conservative at every turn. This became readily apparent in 2010, when the likes of Rove and other party elites attempted to thwart TEA party candidacies. It has only continued with the way they insured that everyone who would be even mildly appealing to the Right, was destroyed in this primary season.

[arrdon]

I have a grand idea; why don’t you half-wits go out and FRAGMENT THE VOTE AGAIN so we can put this Commie POS back in office for another four years! Will that make you feel like you got even?

[Tribune7]

Sixth, It’s the Primaries, Stupid – Support Small Government, Constitutional Conservative Candidates

He's dead right on this and boy did we screw the pooch.

[Le Chien Rouge]

On election day , I will be writing in the Tina Fey look-a-like from Alaska.

All other candidates will be Tea Party backed.

Like Michael was to Fredo, I’m done with the GOP establishment. They mean nothing to me.

[DoughtyOne]

We have been operating under the rule of "Lesser of Two Evils" for decades.  I have agreed with it.  I now stop to ask folks, has our nation grown stronger over those decades?  At some point we have to be honest with ourselves.  For me, the answer is a clear, "No."

So instead of saying people who do this are wrong, I want to give them something to think about.  Perhaps it will help them see things a little differently.

What we have been trying hasn't worked.  We slide farther left every single year.  At some point this has to stop, or we lose the nation we love no matter which party is in power.  Take a good look at Mitt Romney.  On just one topic alone, I can't vote for him.  He's a gun control advocate.  Once our guns are gone, they're gone.  Bad as that is, it runs much deeper.  I don't need to tell you about all of it.  You know what I'm talking about.  Romney is a blithering idiot when it comes to Conservatism.

Carter was universally scorned in 1980.  Obama, arguably much worse, isn't.  He is still wildly popular with the Left.  Has our nation changed?  It's my take that it is undeniably worse and in danger of cratering if we don't change direction.  And where is the voice of the loyal opposition?  That's right... crickets.

For this reason, I simply cannot fall back on the lesser of two evils rule of thumb we have always fallen back on.  I say this because IT IS NOT a change of direction.  If that hasn't worked, and it clearly hasn't, what reasoned argument is there for doing it again now?  Well, to my way of thinking there is no reasoned argument other than the ones that have always been used to advocate for it.  And that tactic having failed, the arguments in support of it are unsustainable.

We have tried this and failed.  So now we must come up with something different.  I, for one, will not sit by and play the business as usual game.  The Republican party must be made aware that it cannot continue to thumb it's nose at it's core base.

Here's the political spectrum we should be operating under.

1780 [L---------c---------R]

This is the political spectrum that would reveal us to be adhering to our Founding Father's vision and our Founding Documents.  This is precisely what the goal of Conservatives should be, to return to this model, and to do it as rapidly as possible.  Are we trending back toward that model?

I see something like this.

1980 [L---d---r-c---------R] *
1984 [L--d----r-c---------R] *
1988 [L--d---r--c---------R] *
1992 [L--d---r--c---------R]
1996 [L--d---r--c---------R]
2000 [L--d--r---c---------R] *
2004 [L-d--r----c---------R] *
2008 [Ld--r-----c---------R]
2012 [Ld--r-----c---------R]

The sad fact is, we are trending away from Conservatism.  That's why many of us are livid at our nominee this year.  AGAIN!!!!

Here is where we are headed folks.

2016 [Ld--r-----c---------R]
2020 [Ld-r------c---------R]
2024 [Ldr-------c---------R]

Does that look enticing?

With the exception of Ronald Reagan in 1980 - 1988, we have been spoon fed our candidates.  I'm not saying they spoon fed us the exact candidate, but they did take advantage of trends to make sure what types of candidates would get the nomination.  How did the RNC manage that?  It allowed it's primaries to be held under conditions that made it possible for Democrats to participate in the Republican nomination process.  Did anyone think that was going to give us more Conservative candidates?  No, it was a given that we were going to get more Leftists.  And more Leftists we got.

The RNC also continually talked up our more Leftist candidates, and made it clear they frowned on our more Conservative ones.  Look what took place this year.  Rove, Card, other party officials and office holders pushed Romney as hard as they could.

Why would the Republican Party do this?  For some time the leadership has been convinced that the nation was heading Left, and it didn't see any possibility of Conservatives being elected.  Rather than look at our rich history and notice that our widest victories were realized when we played on our differences with Leftist policy, they decided to adopt more Leftist policy in an attempt to look more appealing.  And as this took place, the information dispensed to the public heralding Conservatism ceased.  And as the push for Conservatism ceased, the nation moved farther left.

We are now at the point where our Constitution, Capitalism, and other tenets of a sound Constitutional Republic are scorned.

Look at the graph above, and see how that worked out for us.  Ronald Reagan was our last president who won with a large margin of victory.  Starting with the elder Bush, that margin either disappeared completely or was so razor thin that we had a public perception of a Constitutional crises arise in the aftermath of two elections.

Moving to the Left only assured us that the real Democrats would get support.  Why vote for a moderate Leftist when you can vote for the real thing?  Did the RNC learn anything from McCain?  No.  Here we go again with Rove, Card, and the usual suspects trashing better candidates and singing praises to Romney from the get-go.  What is our hope for the future, with the business as usual approach?  Think of our elections since 1988.

And so we have come to the point in our nation's history, where the Republican party is now willing to promote people who don't give a damn about our sovereignty, our Founding Documents, the sanctity of life, our Second Amendment Rights, and more.  At what point do we admit we have full blown Leftists running for office in our party, and refuse to play along any longer?

If Romney were running as a Democrat there isn't even the remotest of chances that you would vote for the man.  But now, because he's running against Obama, some entertain the thought.  And what happens in 2016, when a member of Hamas runs as a Democrat and The Republican is only as bad as Obama?  Do we then vote for the mirror image of him? 

Look folks, at some point we have to let the (R) party know, that they have jumped the shark, and we can no longer support what they want us to.  You see, if we don't, we'll forever be voting for McCains, Romneys, and worse of their ilk. 

If they can get a Leftist like Romney elected, it's effectively the end of Conservatism.  No Conservative will ever get the nomination again.  Should that be our goal?  No.

Why do I say that there will never be another Conservative nominee in the future?  Take a look at this election cycle, and realize it only gets worse from here if Romney can get elected without the Conservative vote.

I hope you'll join me in sending a message to the Republican party.  That message states these things...

1. I will not vote for Leftists(R)
2. I will no longer support the perpetual movement of this nation to the Left
3. I will no longer remain an active member of the Republican Party as long as it fails to support a return to Constitutional governance
4. If you want my support and the support of other Constitutional Conservatives, you'll talk up people who share our ideals, and criticize those who do not share them
5. You will seek to change rules and tighten up processes thus enabling more Constitutional Conservatives to win elections
6. Failing that, adios...

/b

[mountainfolk]

I am responding to the title of your post, the following content I skip read. These pearls of wisdom coming from yet another self proclaimed conservative who views themself as the premier conservative are much alike. Throw out the old Republican tyrants and bring in the new Lords. I am quite suspicious of calls for destruction of the Republican party and installation of a new group of purer conservatives. I note that this Republican primary ran for some months with a variety of candidates who made their case but who did not receive sufficient backing to stay in the running.
I will not submit to anybody defining my conservatism for me, nor do I presume to do so to others. I alone am responsible for making my judgment as to whom I believe to be the best person to lead this Republic.
Destroying the Republican party would not redound to the benefit of any of the political segments who currently are posting on FR under the guise of various conservative superiority. There are those who want a third party, there are those who are democrats egging on self destruction, there are undoubtedly operatives, paid or not, supporting individual candidates, and vested interests for one cause or another. Splitting the available votes won't give any new political party sufficient leverage to win a national election. Given the unlimited financial resources of the democrat party, they own the US treasury after all, it logically takes a strong organization to overcome the money advantage of the opposition. Running a campaign on a shoe string is not a viable option for national elections. The Republican party is the only force at this time who can replace the socialist regime now in power. Howling at the moon and fantasizing about if, ands, or buts, won't change that reality.