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BREAKING: Without Warning, FBI Halts Intel Sharing
PJ Media ^ | April 19, 2012 - 12:02 am | Patrick Poole

Posted on 04/19/2012 12:14:12 PM PDT by null and void

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To: ßuddaßudd
AN event? Low, I'd say.
21 posted on 04/19/2012 1:09:20 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1185 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: PreciousLiberty
Who will guard the guards themselves?

Seems the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy had NOTHING to do with Fast and Furious (except in the delusional minds of it's creators), - ATF corruption, Secret Service meltdown etc. etc. Right wing wasn't there...

Might be time for officials to rethink that meme. IF there was a problem with ONE right winger - it would be on the front page of every newspaper in the country. Look how they dealt with Zimmerman - and he was only a ‘right winger’ in their wettest of wet dreams...And then only for a short time...

22 posted on 04/19/2012 1:14:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: null and void

Obama shut down my Fusion Center, and ate my dog.


23 posted on 04/19/2012 1:18:50 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: null and void

Bottom line: very expensive, not used against the tiny number of potential terrorists, but instead used against ordinary citizens for ordinary reasons. If such systems are quietly discontinued, no one will miss them.

It *might* have been a good idea if there was an extensive network of terrorists and their supporters in the US, but by all accounts, there isn’t.


24 posted on 04/19/2012 1:21:48 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: null and void
This isn't good. HOWEVER, if I am the other agencies, I shrug and all the rest of us continue to share info. The FBI will be like the communist bloc that cut off their own noses by refusing to trade with the 'outside world'.

D'ya hear me, CIA / NSA / DHS / and so on? You guys simply go around the FBI and continue to do your level best to do good work.

25 posted on 04/19/2012 1:21:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Distributing firearms to death squads?


26 posted on 04/19/2012 1:30:45 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: BuffaloJack; All
Why do we need 77 agencies each competing for turf? Wouldn’t just FBI and CIA be sufficient?



For the most part, yes. But it might not be just that. It is a power and money grab that the FBI may be saying NO to.

Looks like they got a whiff of the "Aspen Report."

http://www.aspeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/content/docs/pubs/HS-HPSCI-hearing-011812.pdf

Select quotes...

The growth of our expectations of domestic security, and the evolution of threats away from traditional state actors toward non-state entities -- drug cartels, organized crime, and terrorism are prominent examples -- suggest that the DHS intelligence mission should be threat agnostic.

(Everyone is suspect.)

In English it is saying "non-international." (hold that thought) Then they try to create the impression that there is a "gap" in the current intel apparatus.

In an age of budget constraints, pressure on DHS to focus on core areas of responsibility and capability -- and to avoid emphasis on areas performed by other entities -- may allow for greater focus on these areas of core competency while the agency sheds intelligence functions less central to the DHS mission. Analysts and managers in Washington’s sprawling intelligence architecture often speak of the value of competitive analysis -- analysts at different agencies, for example, looking at similar problems to ensure that we miss no new perspective, no potentially valuable data source."

Well, we certainly would not want that, lets go with a single source of information that is not questioned!

There remains room for this type of analysis, (Well that's mighty big of `em) but there are enough agencies pursuing the terrorist adversary to allow DHS to build a new analytic foundation that emphasizes data, analytic questions, and customer groups that are not the focus for other agencies. Analysis that helps private-sector partners better understand how to mitigate threats to infrastructure, for example, should win more resourcing (MONEY) than a focus on all-source analysis of general threats, such as work on assessing the perpetrators of attacks. Conversely, all-source analysis of terrorist groups and general terrorist trends should remain the domain of other intelligence agencies.

So, the blanket label of "terrorism" is used to justify this power grab. Above, terrorism is referenced as "non-state" i.e. international, to prove there is a gap in intelligence gathering. Below, there is a reversal of this in the "understand overseas terrorist incidents and translate them into analysis for the US."

This new approach to intelligence (new and improved!) -- serving local partners’ requirements, providing intelligence in areas (such as infrastructure) not previously served by intelligence agencies, (duh) and disseminating information by new means -- reflects a transition in how Americans perceive national security. For this reason, state/local agencies, as clients for DHS intelligence, should also be involved in the development of requirements for what kinds of intelligence on emerging threats would be most helpful, from changing tactics for smuggling aliens into the United States to how to understand overseas terrorist incidents and translate them into analysis for the US.

What part of "not previously served" did they not understand when they wrote "providing intelligence in areas (such as infrastructure) not previously served by intelligence agencies,"

Throughout the document there is the pervasive intrusion into state and local law enforcement agencies. there are no less that twelve direct references to this.

Local private sector (1)

Local partner (5)

local agency (3)

local police agency (1)

localized (1)

And they will "help" with the screening, hiring and training of all those "interfaces" with the State and local P.D's.

That is not the end of it. They want in on the private sector as well.

There are eight references to "private" with six as "private sector" and one each to "private partnership" and "private."

And here is the money quote... DHS customers will require information with limited classification; in contrast to most other federal intelligence entities, DHS should focus on products that start at lower classification levels, especially unclassified and FOUO, (For Official Use Only).

Unclassified and FOUO.

And that means ALL unclassified data. Credit cards, phone records, DOT info, school records, medical, internet, email, commercial business data, E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G that would normally require your permission or a warrant.



Nice huh?

Perhaps the FBI got wind of an effort by little bammy's crew to go down that road. What with his monstrous E.O. expanding the Emergency Powers to "in peacetime and in times of national emergency" it is quite plausible.

Perhaps the FBI did not want their REAL intel being thrown in the pot with Unclassified and FOUO.

Perhaps someone in the FBI just said "OH HELL NO."

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27 posted on 04/19/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
It *might* have been a good idea if there was an extensive network of terrorists and their supporters in the US, but by all accounts, there isn’t.

All accounts?

I guess you've missed all the reports of OTM invaders crossing our southern border.

28 posted on 04/19/2012 11:55:29 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1185 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Yeah, about that. I’ve long had an easy and inexpensive solution to any OTM crossing the border. It’s called a bounty, paid to Mexicans for any tips about OTM crossings, if and only if there is a payoff.

Oddly enough, it can be just a small reward, yet the southern border would be covered 24/7 by tens of thousands of hungry eyes. Even OTM smugglers would take pay for smuggling, then call the phone number to report them.

This is so inexpensive that it could even be done by a private individual, yet to effective that the border would be sealed to OTM crossers.

Even without this, the US has 16 major intelligence agencies and 100+ federal police organizations. They have long had all the tools they needed.

Much of the Patriot Act has been utterly wasted, or worse, applied against American citizens Bill of Rights protections for mundane purposes. Non-terrorism crime, or suspicion, and some are so broad that even non-suspects are investigated as “fishing expeditions” for nothing in particular.

In practice, only between 5-10% of the Patriot Act has any validity. The rest should be scrubbed.


29 posted on 04/19/2012 12:24:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: ßuddaßudd

Today would be a good day for an event. But so far all quiet on the western front. April 19.


30 posted on 04/19/2012 12:31:08 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: GOPJ

Clearly we are too intimidated to do anything rowdy.


31 posted on 04/19/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: GOPJ

i was thinking the same thing...fusion centers compromised.


32 posted on 04/19/2012 12:45:16 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: thouworm; null and void; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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Article, then # 9 , # 27 , and time permitting, read all comments.

Thanks, thouworm.

33 posted on 04/19/2012 2:27:29 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: ichabod1

April 20 has historically been a bad day for a lot of people.


34 posted on 04/19/2012 2:35:30 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: null and void; Fred Nerks; LucyT

So, now Muslims have taken over the FBI? There was a Muslim loving cadre of the FBI which raided the Hutaree Militia in Wisconsin in 2009.

Essentially Obama’s fascist tentacles are now invading our law enforcement institutions.They are NOT enforcing the laws, as per Eric Holder.They select what they like to enforce and follow presidential executive orders.

This is the dawn of fascism in America folks. MARK IT WELL.


35 posted on 04/19/2012 3:10:30 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: null and void
Not September 10th. It's April 19th. Tomorrow is April 20th. Think Waco. Think OKC bombing. Columbine. Deepwater Horizon explosion in the gulf. Hitler's birthday. It's a day that seems to attract pretty nasty events. Not a good time to have intel sharing shut off.
36 posted on 04/19/2012 3:18:21 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Also coming up on the 1year anniversary of UBL’s demise.


37 posted on 04/19/2012 3:38:02 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: LucyT

Hmmm?? Something big in the works and they don’t want any leaks....Maybe they found the BC? /sarc


38 posted on 04/19/2012 4:09:14 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: null and void
Now all of the billions of taxpayer dollars spent building fusion centers all across the country are essentially wasted.

Just a drop in the bucket of waste from this admin.

Transparency my aunt fanny.

39 posted on 04/19/2012 4:21:15 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Velveeta; Myrddin; LucyT; hoosiermama
"Also coming up on the 1year anniversary of UBL’s demise."

We are also coming up on the 1-year anniversary of the "release" of the online image of the "Obama" LFBC. That event was nuked out of the news cycle by the purported takedown of UBL.

"Hmmm?? Something big in the works and they don’t want any leaks....Maybe they found the BC? /sarc"

The press conference to present the findings of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse was nuked out of the news cycle by the sudden death of Andrew Breitbart (wait till March 1st!) and the bomb scare at the Limbaugh residence. I wonder what will distract from the 1-year anniversary of the release of the forgery?

Thanks for the Ping, LucyT.

40 posted on 04/19/2012 4:21:20 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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