The three largest ethnic group of passengers aboard Titanic were Americans, Britons and Swedes.
Most of the Swedes traveled in third class, but in spite of this, a very large number of them survived - unlike most of the ship’s crew (that mostly came from the area of Southampton, England).
Perhaps we Scandinavians do better in cold waters, or what?
Look, when the ladies started pushing “equal rights”, “equal pay”, started dressing like a man, demanding participation in mens clubs,equal equal equal well equal this little ladies. You can get in the pack and fight for a lifeboat seat the equal way of doing it.
Kids and infirmed? different story.
I don’t believe this. It’s just more liberal feminist manhating crap memes.
Except - metrosexuals TODAY would definitely shove women and children out of the way to get out first.
But men? No. That’s one of the definitions of a man - and why feminists have such a hard time turning young women away from real men, even today.
Notice the study gives “survival rates,” that is not what the expression “women and children first” would refer too: first on a life raft, or first off the ship. It does not imply the expectation that they will be saved.
Generally, survival in desperate situations at sea are more a matter of experience and expertise, both of which are highest among crew and captains. It’s not just being the first on a life raft. It’s also surviving at sea until rescue.
There must be at least one crew member in each life boat......they’re very tasty.
It is worst for the single guys.
The married men probably went down smiling and waving.
give the DOCUMENTED maritime history, this article is a myth.
The fact is any merchant marine or seaman (other than those from countries with no women and children first maritime history ala italy) who survives at the expense of women and children might as well die afterwards due to shunning and peer pressure excomunication.
To take your chance in the thick of a rush, with firing all about,
Is nothing so bad when you’ve cover to ‘and, an’ leave an’ likin’ to shout;
But to stand an’ be still to the Birken’ead drill is a damn tough bullet to chew,
An’ they done it, the Jollies - ‘Er Majesty’s Jollies - soldier an’ sailor too!
Their work was done when it ‘adn’t begun; they was younger nor me an’ you;
Their choice it was plain between drownin’ in ‘eaps an’ bein’ mopped by the screw,
So they stood an’ was still to the Birken’ead drill, soldier an’ sailor too
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/women-and-children-first.html
It depends on the country. England had a tradition of women and children first. As we recently saw with that Italian liner, other countries may not. Does anyone believe that if a Muslim ship went down, the men would wait for the ladies to board the lifeboats?
I know some families of Americans who died on the Titanic, like Harry Elkins Widener, and they were basically upper class Easterners—British gentlemen in their thinking.
America was largely shaped by English thinking on these matters, but if a ship went down today, I doubt whether they would behave as gentlemanly as they did on the Titanic.
It seems women were far less likely to know how to swim 100 years ago than men. Neither my mom or my mother in law knows how to swim and they are only in their 70’s.
That won’t do much for survival rate on sinking boats...
They spew this crap as if men were putting themselves before women and children(some might, most won’t)totally ignoring the fact that MEN were the ones holding the guns on the Titanic.
When the men are devout Christians, women and children are first. The Birkenhead manned by Scottish covenanting Christians went down and the men stayed on deck singing from the Psalter. They made an oath not to swim out to the lifeboats lest they capsize and the women and children perish. Many men were killed by sharks, but the women and children survived.
You and your little clique of misfits can wallow in your misandry, or whatever malady that happens to afflict you, the rest of us will continue to respect the sacrifice of those who choose to give their lives for others.
Many years ago my husband and I along with my mother and step father were involved in a flood in South Dakota. My husband and I survived, but my mother and step father were killed as they had to swim for their lives.
When it came to settle the insurance for them, I did not receive any of the money because the insurance company said that because he was a man my step father more than likely outlived my mother, and therefore only his family would receive the money. My mother was a strong swimmer so I know that of the two she would have survived longer, but that was their policy.
Just goes to show that the phrase, “There is no greater love than for a man to give his life for another” is an ideal in courage and love and has nothing to do with the average base man when confronted with his own impending demise.
I imagine many things are bolted down on a ship, but with plenty of time why didn’t they unbolt tables, doors, dressers, or anything else that could possibly float and toss them in the water so that people might at least have a chance of climbing up unto them and float until help came? Throw chest with blanket and clothes in the water so that floating they may be retrieved by those on the table’s, bunks etc. to rap up in and try to stay warmer until help arrives. Might be a long shot, but better than no shot at all.