Posted on 04/13/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
ST. LOUIS Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says the United Nations should adopt a treaty giving everyone on the planet the right to bear firearms.
The GOP presidential candidate told the National Rifle Association convention Friday in St. Louis that the group has been too timid in promoting gun rights.
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Newt gave a great speech at the NRA convention. He said the U.S. Constitution does not say God given rights of Americans to bear arms but rights of mankind. He said that the NRA should propose to the UN that all the people of the world should have the right to bear arms to protect themselves -- that there would be less rape, murder of children and despots and dictators who oppress and control their citizens. (He said it much better and the transcript of his speech will be posted at C-SPAN -- Speeches are still being given. Bobby Jindal just finished).
The Constitution does not "give" us rights, it says that those rights are endowed by our Creator. The Constitution is just to "secure" them.
If the U.N. tries to "give" rights, be very sure that it will come with blue helmets and enforcers.
I don’t look to the UN to give me any of my rights. They have nothing to say about what I do and don’t do and it needs to stay that way.
>Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says the United Nations should adopt a treaty giving everyone on the planet the right to bear firearms.
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>The GOP presidential candidate told the National Rifle Association convention Friday in St. Louis that the group has been too timid in promoting gun rights.
Ok, Newt just got a huge boost in my book w/ that.
Newt doesn’t get it.
He should’ve said that the UN should GTF out of the US’ domestic policies.
As much as I like Newt, why does ANYONE need permission from anyone else, ESPECIALLY the Godamn U.N. to protect themselves!
Getting pretty fed up with this “getting permission” bullsh!t
You are, of course, correct.
The UN should endorse a God-given individual right to self defense (including property!), and the right of individuals to own the tools for self-defense including, but not limited to, firearms.
Still it is a pretty nice reversal on the evil bastards at the UN.
Newt is going all out to prevent Iran from arming up. What goes Newt?
The point was well made that we have freedom because WE, Americans, can protect our God given rights. Just the opposite of Obama and his assault on the Constitution and religion.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,-—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Agreed.
And while they’re at it, they can GTF out of the U.S.A.
C'mon dude. Take a chill pill and acquiece to your betters. /s
Please take the time to understand the point that was being made. Newt was not asking U.N. permission but illustrating why we are free and other countries are not. It wasn’t directed at the U.N but rather to people enslaved around the world.
That would be hard to do after the current President took complaints against Arizona TO the United Nations.
Please don’t use God’s name in vain.
August 10, 2011: Newt Gingrich: Suspend U.N. Funding Now!
Don’t you get it? The UN considers private gun ownership to be a civil rights violation. Of course we don’t follow that. But other nations do. That’s what he’s talking about.
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It is from this assertion that the 2nd Amendment flows. The Founders knew that a government which could infringe on the right to keep and bear arms could threaten these fundamental liberties of Man. Thus, the Constitution does not grant a right to keep and bear arms; the Constitution tells the government to keep its hands off a pre-existing, inherent and unalienable right that the people mean to retain.
I agree with the sentiment. Everyone on earth is entitled to self-defense.
I would not agree we need the UN to “give” rights to anyone. If anything we need to get rid of the damn UN.
So great sentiment, but not so much on implementation.
He could have shown more strength by saying that America doesn’t need the UN and that it is a corrupt institution that undermines our sovereignty.
“Newt doesnt get it. He shouldve said that the UN should GTF out of the US domestic policies.”
I couldn’t agree more.
What many people here do not understand is that many countries accept international treaties as superior to their own law. This is, in fact, one of their legal principles, and it’s what gives the UN and other such bodies so much clout.
So while the US may not need it (yet), since Newt was talking about the world, yes, it would help to have a UN treaty affirming the right to bear arms.
No one can “give” anyone else any “rights”, they can only protect them or violate them.
“....many countries accept international treaties as superior to their own law.”
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And the US has sunk that low, too?
Without the US’ annual financial support since 1946, there would not have been a UN to badmouth us year after year.
So Newt Gingrich believes the United Nations has that kind of power and legitimacy??
Hey CW! That was a GREAT speech! (Mitten’s speech wasn’t bad- if only he could be believed) I’d have missed it if I hadn’t been on grassroots.newt & seen it/ the link, roll through on the chat. Providence!
Wonder if someone could help me remember which speech Newt gave (or several- maybe it was during one of the debates) when he *specifically addressed* reforming the UN, basically eliminating it’s influence over the US. It was quite a while back (January?).
electad(.com?) may have it. I’ll try to look for it.
From February 2012 at another NRA meeting. Newt has a great speech there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbGbKbGZsGY&feature=player_embedded
They don’t get the ‘limited government’ or the fact that the power resides in the people not in the govt.
Giving rights? The UN? HA!! The UN couldn't give itself an enema!!
The UN should DROP DEAD !!!
This is where Newt loses me... he is a globalist. The UN doesn’t make laws trumping state sovereignty. That said, I would crawl over burning coals to vote for him over what we are facing.
Amen, RightLady. Amen.
No, you’ll note that I said “not the US - yet.”
Like it or not, UN rights law is accepted as superior to the constitutions of most countries. The UN would NEVER consider the right to bear arms (that is, the right to defend yourself) as a human right, and I think Newt was correct to call them on this.
He’s not a “globalist” - he’s somebody who knows a lot about how other countries work.
I’m a legal translator and I translate documents every day from countries where UN and international law is given precedence over their own law.
We have not reached that point yet...although Bambi sure wants to destroy US law and have us accept “international law” ...but many other countries have.
So challenging the UN to adopt such a treaty - which would affect the Marxist countries as well - could be a defining moment. (All Marxist countries are anti-gun because they fear that the citizens might rise up.)
Newt said the UN should ‘acknowledge’ this God-given right.
Just the one amendment? Let’s see if we can get them to approve the whole thing as a model constitution.
See my #39 and listen to the speech.
Thanks for a sane analysis. Very few if any in the preceding 37 posts.
If Newt cannot pull off the GOP nomination, I would like to see him serve as the new Attorney General. As a historian, a non-lawyer, with an ego the size of Texas, he would blow the rotten DOJ establishment to pieces and perhaps implement some radically needed reforms.
BINGO!
Well then, kudos to Newt and boos for whoever mangled the headline.
Well, maybe not, but I'd bet that it's not his plan that only the bad guys own them.
You are silly. God wants his people to thank him for existence in this world. Self defense has been an issue since the existence of man. Some have spears, some are not allowed to have spears. God’s People have spears to defend themselves from Satan and his minions. Thus the Bill of Rights.
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