Posted on 04/10/2012 4:52:33 PM PDT by Cato in PA
I figure Mitt isn’t much of a Mormon. He only has one wife.
By contrast, Newt is much better, working on number three.
President is a management job. Chuck doesn’t have much experience with that. Neither does Newt (though he gets half a point for herding cats in the House). Neither does Ron Paul.
Of course if we want someone to do triage on the country, Dr. Ron Paul is your guy.
A third party is a total waste. Just look how the Libertarians do...who the heck will they run when Ronny Paul is gone?
Mitty is a total RINO piece of crap but it is what it is...I expect he will win and then WE THE PEOPLE will have to excersize our power and stay on top of him to stay right. OMG, if Allen West gets picked for Veep we have a winner!!
I’ll make a deal with you and everyone else here who thinks I’m wrong: show me how we can bring Willard Romney the open socialist in line with conservatism to any degree and I’ll reluctantly support him.
I’m not some unreasonable idealist; I said it wasn’t about purity from the start and I meant it. Hell, if Romney would stop defending Romneycare and adopt a flat tax plan like Newt’s, that would be enough for me to vote for him because that, at least, would make some significant headway into fixing the economy.
It’s the same rationale behind my support for Newt: he’s come out against the individual mandate and has a good plan for the economy.
Care to take me up on my offer?
“I’ll make a deal with you and everyone else here who thinks I’m wrong: show me how we can bring Willard Romney the open socialist in line with conservatism to any degree and I’ll reluctantly support him.
I’m not some unreasonable idealist; I said it wasn’t about purity from the start and I meant it. Hell, if Romney would stop defending Romneycare and adopt a flat tax plan like Newt’s, that would be enough for me to vote for him because that, at least, would make some significant headway into fixing the economy.”
Every time I see that mug, I’m reminded of 9-11.
Almost every person in the history of the world who set out to achieve great things had some bozo in his ear telling him it couldn't be done. You are that bozo, telling all that there is no alternative to the socialist-Lite (tm) party for a conservative. There is, but it takes vision to recognize that, and it will take serendipity and a great person or persons to bring it about.
The libertarians fail because no one likes what they believe. Not the whole package, anyway.
I don’t think Romney is an open socialist.
Romney care was a state requirement to buy insurance, in response to a federal requirement for Emergency Rooms to treat anyone who walks in. What were the alternatives?
1. let ER go bankrupt.
2. put ER workers in jail for violation of federal law.
3. enslave ER workers, forcing them to work on people who can’t pay.
4. steal from people with insurance, making them pay for people without.
5. fine people without insurance, and fine them enough to cover the ER costs they run up.
6. fine the people without insurance, but not enough to cover the ER costs- subsidize with other tax money.
7. invent a government program to pay for all health care.
Of those options, 5 sounds the most conservative to me, and it is the best description of Romney care. 6 is the Obamacare option, forced after 7 didn’t fly.
The Republican party didn’t break off from the Whigs. The Whigs failed, and the Anti-Nebraska party was built up from its ruins, with a number of anti-slavery Democrats.
Why not do that again? Because there was a lot of bad that happened between the failure of the Whig party and the election of Lincoln and the Republicans. We would save our nation that pain.
“Lord, send us the cure. The sickness we have already.”
Newt is your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Party Candidate!
Wake the # up, people!
Go Newt!
Here is a technique:
Vote for Mitt. He gets elected.
Vote for (R) for Representatives. A majority get elected.
Vote for (R) for Senator. A 60% majority get elected.
Then we can put through legislation that is all (R) and the liberal wing of the party will have to cater to the most conservative wing of the (R) party.
That is essentially what happened in 2008, except with a (D) instead of a (R) and the liberals/socialists rather than with the conservatives.
Imagine: doing away with the EPA. How about the DEd. Perhaps even cutting back on the regulations from HUD that prevent cities from adjusting to modern conditions. Throw in a conservative supreme court justice or two, but one as stellar as Thomas is unlikely.
I read your posts. Many false extrapilations.
If we threaten to withhold support from Romney but don’t rule out voting for him in the general, it will give us leverage over him and the party.
I disagree that President is a management job. It is a vision job. There is so much machinery in place, the only “management” needed is picking a handful of folks who share you, um, VISION.
Mitt has no vision.
Any chance Sarah Palin could jump late into the primaries and take enough delegates to keep Romney from his expected coronation?
We have certainly reached the point of desperation.
A brokered convention sounds better all the time ... and it sounds MUCH better if Sarah has a shot at the crown!
some of us put our energy into the primary fight. If we cannot dominate these low turnout events (IA = 120k, NH = 220k, etc.), winning an election with 100 million voters ... ???
That is why a bunch of us were doing the stuff, phones, windshield flyers, door-to-door, signs, etc. in the December of New Hampshire and the caucuses of Maine .... cause that is where the grassroots can matter.
I spent my wad already. Who’s well rested for a 3rd-party pipe dream.
GO NEWT. CT-RI-PA-DE-NY in 2 WEEKS.
Does that mean Jim Robinson is a “plant” since he doesn’t support Romney? ( Jim...copied you on this since I mentioned your name)
So in your world are you an Obama “plant” if you don’t enthusiastically agree to support the father of socialized medicine in America?
Does that mean you are a “plant” if you don’t like Romney’s support of Planned Parenthood, gun control, global warming, forcing Catholic hospitals to provide contraception, higher taxes, liberal judges, wealth redistribution?
If so...I guess I’m a plant.
FUMR!
I’d rather have a liberal than a traitor in office.
But Romney’s going to lose anyway.
the guy in the office with me said:
people who live in PA, 2 weeks before the PA primary, and they are online discussing the general election and who they are going to run for Pres in Nebraska and TN and SD ....
he said, “people like dat are not really involved in politics.”
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