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To: marktwain

I am retired from the NYPD, and the Stop and Frisk, is exactly that, a “frisk”. Its a pat down. A search would be going in your pockets. Following the frisk, the person is identified and a report filed. This procedure was just challenged by the ACLU as they believed it was a violation of rights. The NYPD can no longer keep these records, in spite of the fact that they have led to thousands and thousands of arrests. NYC’s murder rate has gone from over 2,000 per year to 500. Its the safest large city in the nation for a reason. As far as the NYPD, we are sworn to uphold the laws of NY State. We don’t get to pick and choose.


5 posted on 04/10/2012 7:42:35 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: cumbo78
As far as the NYPD, we are sworn to uphold the laws of NY State. We don’t get to pick and choose.

Yeah, too bad you didn't uphold your oath to the Constitution. If you ever took one.

7 posted on 04/10/2012 7:46:00 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: cumbo78
As far as the NYPD, we are sworn to uphold the laws of NY State. We don’t get to pick and choose.

If you do not get to "pick and choose", then your oath to uphold and defend the Constitution means nothing. In my experience, all officers have considerable discretion in who they arrest.

I could be wrong, perhaps NYPD do not take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Of course, the argument can be made that on abstract, difficult matters, a police officer must rely on the interpretation of the Constitution by his superiors and the courts.

I do not find the Second Amendment or the Fourth Amendment to be so abstract and difficult, but some might.

11 posted on 04/10/2012 8:17:04 AM PDT by marktwain
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