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Chief Justice Says States Have Compromised Their Sovereignty
The New American ^ | 3/29/2012 | Jack Kenny

Posted on 03/30/2012 6:29:41 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

“The people of the states have voluntary given up their sovereignty.”

I thought that got settled in 1865.

Or did it?

There’s only one way we’ll find the answer to that question.

Same way as in 1861....


41 posted on 03/30/2012 8:11:16 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: djf

Toss in Income Taxes and the stage was set for a federal power grab.


42 posted on 03/30/2012 8:12:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Valentine Michael Smith
I think the Civil War had a little something to do with states losing their sovereignty.

That and the separation of church and state decision (1948). Once the court started reordering society, they just couldn't stop themselves. Soon to follow: compulsory busing, distribution of birth control to the unmarried, legal abortion, etc etc.

43 posted on 03/30/2012 8:15:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: IbJensen
The people political scum of the states have voluntary given up their sovereignty.
44 posted on 03/30/2012 8:16:36 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: Diogenesis
They ex parte met with, and bowed before an undocumented, if not foreign, litigant on a case before them...

I will never forget how Roberts faced Obama at the swearing-in and flubbed the wording. Guilty conscience?

45 posted on 03/30/2012 8:19:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: longtermmemmory
" this is not a good line of questioning for tossing obamacare.
If you accept federal money once you give up EVERYTHING?"
the fools...if it goes for public freedoms, then what private liberties?...oh $h!t.

46 posted on 03/30/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Kill all the terrorists, protect all the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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To: bestintxas

What exactly do you mean that 38 states can throw out Congress, President, and Supreme Court? I know that 3/4 of the states, or 38 states, can ratify constitutional amendments, or call a constitutional convention. Is that what you have in mind, either amendments limiting their power, or a new constitution?


47 posted on 03/30/2012 8:24:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: IbJensen

Is John Roberts taking the position that it’s too late to stop ObamaCare because we’ve sold out so long it’s precedent?

Oh God, please NOT that... I don’t want to be forced to buy a Volt ... I don’t want to be forced to buy ‘racial sensitivity’ classes....


48 posted on 03/30/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: IbJensen

Those on the FR who brag about how they will never vote for Mitt Romney and would rather have Obama need to think long and hard about the next two appointments to the Supreme Court. If Obama makes those appointments it is game over for the Republic.


49 posted on 03/30/2012 8:33:12 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: azcap

What makes you think Romney’s appoinments will be any better, certainly in light of his performance in Massachusetts?


50 posted on 03/30/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: DMG2FUN
Leftist aka progressives think tax dollars are they governments. Not the taxpayer.Once the government takes your money, it's theirs, not yours.
51 posted on 03/30/2012 8:45:12 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: cuban leaf
EXCELLENT POINT! The whole Act is based on "budgetary implications", i.e., people NOT buying health insurance.

Hope Roberts seizes on this "torpedo" and turns it right back at those who argue "everyone" needs to get on board the "Good Ship Obama Care!"

And may all those who thought it was such a "BFD" to launch it be the ones who go down with it. Better they than the Constitution, which the Left has been so busy chipping away at that they--in their overweening pride and arrogance--think they have reduced from a "mighty berg" into a "mere cube"!

52 posted on 03/30/2012 8:46:28 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: dfwgator

What makes you think Romney’s appoinments will be any better, certainly in light of his performance in Massachusetts?
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A very good question. We don’t know the answer except that they can’t be any worse.


53 posted on 03/30/2012 9:04:46 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: azcap

Speechless.


54 posted on 03/30/2012 9:21:19 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: IbJensen

The age of the ugly appointees to the Soopreme Court is upon us.

55 posted on 03/30/2012 9:27:20 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: IbJensen
"It's just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people's health care,"

With aprioris like these, Kagan is definitely out of touch:

1. there is no boatload of money when you starve people from business

2. How does she know they are poor people?

3. Hers is not a constitutional argument but a lawmaking budgetary worry that should be reserved for Congress to decide. Because money or no money in COngress, the issue is whether this is COnstitutional, and not just "fair".

56 posted on 03/30/2012 9:27:42 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: GOPJ

Time for a u-turn!


57 posted on 03/30/2012 9:28:16 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: milagro

Kagan has the mental age of a 5 year old.

Instead of studying law and the constitution, they were taught in “higher education” on how to make nice little “Dear Santa” letters while sh!ting on his elves.


58 posted on 03/30/2012 9:32:50 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Absolute power as per the Constitution is held by 3/4 of states.

Everything can be changed if they have agreement, in spite of whatever Congress, POTUS or SCOTUS says.


59 posted on 03/30/2012 9:59:38 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: IbJensen

Indeed it is true as spoken here also:

“It seems to me that they have compromised their status as independent sovereigns because they are so dependent on what the federal government has done,” the chief justice said during Wednesday’s nearly three hours of hearings on the controversial health insurance law.”

Although Our states have had little choice as The Federal tyrants have taken our money anyway. The only options was to follow their edicts or have them give our money to our competitors. This is really not unlike that of blackmail on the part of the Federal Government.


60 posted on 03/30/2012 1:47:46 PM PDT by Monorprise
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