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Supreme Court appears poised to nullify entire healthcare law
The Los Angeles Times ^ | March 28, 2012 | By David G. Savage and Noam N. Levey

Posted on 03/28/2012 5:46:43 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court, after three days of arguments on President Obama's healthcare overhaul, appeared ready to strike down not just the requirement that individuals have insurance, but the entire law, invalidating a major piece of domestic legislation for the first time since the Depression.

That prospect, unthinkable to many experts as recently as last week, will not be certain until the justices rule on the case, probably in June.

But the electric set of arguments that ended Wednesday revealed profound skepticism about the law by the court's five-member conservative majority, which appeared openly hostile to its scheme for mobilizing the federal government to achieve universal healthcare.

In question after question the nine justices revealed themselves as sharply divided as Congress and the American public over the virtues of Obama's law.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: failure; obamacare; toast
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The Slimes seems perplexed about simple constitutional principals.
1 posted on 03/28/2012 5:46:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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They need to dump the whole health care law. I’m of the opinion that the Democrats included everything they could in the law, knowing that part of it would probably be dropped but the majority would stay. They need to be taught that the American people won’t stand for it.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 5:50:50 PM PDT by RC2
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Of course the slimes were probably granted an Obamacare waiver.
3 posted on 03/28/2012 6:01:47 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I agree, and it’s looking hopeful, but don’t count the chickens quite yet.

I have been disappointed by the Supreme Court too many times to be confident about this.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 6:03:00 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Court may well “appear poised,” but I wouldn’t get too cocky about it.


5 posted on 03/28/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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That prospect, unthinkable to many experts as recently as last week......

Some experts they use as references.

6 posted on 03/28/2012 6:04:50 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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The line of questioning does give rise to hope that at least the mandate will be struck down, if not the entire law. I still feel the law will be upheld in its entirety. Roberts, Scalia, and Altio all could waiver with Kennedy. The big question is if all or part of the law is thrown out, what is next? Rino’s caving and going with an actual tax and single payor? Win the battle and lose the war?
7 posted on 03/28/2012 6:04:50 PM PDT by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered With a Glass Half Empty)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Believe it when I see it.


8 posted on 03/28/2012 6:05:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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If the court chucks out Obamacare, it will certainly be beneficial to Romney’s campaign.

Most people really don’t believe that he would sign Obamacare repeal, a Supreme Court decision would take Romney’s weakest issue off the table.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 6:07:31 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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It appears to me that the Rats want the infrastructure of Obamacare even without the mandate so to grow government bureaucracy. However, I think this would allow it more easily for the Repubs to defund and expunge the rest of OBScare at the first opportunity.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 6:09:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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...unthinkable to many experts as recently as last week...

It was plenty thinkable to those of us who can read the constitution and actually think...but I suppose that leaves off LA Time's most trusted "experts".

11 posted on 03/28/2012 6:11:20 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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... and if the Republicans had any guts at all Articles of Impeachment would already be drawn up against Kagan.
12 posted on 03/28/2012 6:19:23 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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The day it is struck down, the clown will issue an Executive Order 2,700 pages long.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 6:21:29 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Preparing Celebratory Dance with noisemakers.


14 posted on 03/28/2012 6:27:30 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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5 words: “Kelo v. City of New London”


15 posted on 03/28/2012 6:38:28 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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invalidating a major piece of domestic legislation for the first time since the Depression.

Is the implication here that this SCOTUS would be out of step with the past 70 years of SCOTUS history, in overturning Obamacare? I think so, reading between the lines.

Leftists love "conservatism" when it suits their purposes

16 posted on 03/28/2012 6:40:46 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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The day it is struck down, the clown will issue an Executive Order 2,700 pages long.

That is what I am wondering, What will Obama's reaction (and the entire marxist underground) be?
Will they come out fighting or will they retrench and use medicare as their trojan horse?

17 posted on 03/28/2012 6:45:52 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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I’m hopeful. Why would they set aside three days to do something small? Kennedy was sniffed out on this long ago. He was quoting from Mark Levine’s Amicus Brief (sp?). This could be the ‘Constitutional Spring’ we’ve all waited for - A forty foot wall around the Commerce clause.


18 posted on 03/28/2012 6:51:11 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my light bulbs !)
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As I posted on another thread on this subject today:

As it is, the Constitution's protections for individual liberty are hanging by a thread.

Perhaps the Justices fear the wrath of future generations who, using current and future technologies, will read their nation's history, and know that this Court's decision on this blatant "power grab" disguised in various semantic terms as related to "health care," either preserved their individual liberty, or contributed to the destruction of their freedom.

"The People" in the 1930's through the rest of the 20th Century did not have ready access to every word of the reasoned debate of the principles essential to liberty. Now, they do, and that must be a powerful motivator for this and future Courts who decide on matters of freedom versus government tyranny over individuals.

No longer will their actions be measured only by now-current opinion, but their rulings must stand the scrutiny of future generations of being compared to the ideas of the Framers of America's Constitution.

"Posterity! you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it." - John Adams, Letter to Abigail Adams, 1777

"[Our Departed Ancestors] task (and nobly they performed it) [was] to possess themselves, and through themselves, us, of this goodly land; and to uprear upon its hills and its valleys, a political edifice of liberty and equal rights; 'tis ours only, to transmit these, the former, unprofaned by the foot of an invader; the latter, undecayed by the lapse of time and untorn by usurpation, to the latest generation that fate shall permit the world to know. This task of gratitude to our fathers, justice to ourselves, duty to posterity, and love for our species in general, all imperatively require us faithfully to perform. How then shall we perform it? At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln, January 27, 1838

With all the effort so-called "progressive" enemies of freedom have put to censoring and removing from textbooks, schools and public discourse the remarkable ideas upon which America's Declaration and Constitution were formed and framed, one can perhaps imagine that Divine Providence has a sense of humor, inasmuch as a click of a mouse now can bring back almost every line of their words and debate about the essential ideas of liberty.

No longer can legislators, executives, and judges in chambers act in violations of those ideas without knowing that current and future generations, using their Creator-endowed "gift of reason," can research and recognize who, and by what means, liberty was destroyed.

19 posted on 03/28/2012 7:15:11 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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BUMP.


20 posted on 03/28/2012 7:55:02 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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