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To: ohioWfan
The post I made I'll explain. Since Post WW2 our nation and our military have gotten far removed from the requirements of war. How should war be fought? Where are the answers both in treatment of enemy and our troops?

The R.O.E.'s or Rules Of Engagement were written several thousand years ago and carried out by a leader mankind simply knows as Joshua. One battle he lead was so intense not one person except a prostitute and her family survived it. All others in the enemy city died as did all animals. The Book Of Joshua also shows what Treaties with less then honest nations will get you.

War is a judgment upon a nation as history shows time and time again. There are no innocents in war especially those in the enemy nation. Our society today due to a warped sense of war is outraged at civilian causalities in a ground offensive yet hardly blinks if bombs from our aircraft kill thousands in one night. Dead is dead.

A soldiers job as any service member is not Nanny, Baby Sitter, peace keeper, nation builder, etc. Their mission is too seek out the enemy and kill. You kill till one of three things happen. The nation unconditionally surrenders like Japan & Germany did, the enemy nation overthrows it's government and stops fighting, or the enemy is eliminated from the face of the earth. This is no other kinder, gentler, way. Our Founding Fathers understood this and that is why our military and our civilian law enforcement should not be as one.

We abandoned the principles of war and the lessons of Joshua beginning in Korea. Today we are mocked by North Korea. I'm old enough also to remember the Pueblo incident and a president who sent an unarmed ship purposely into harms way.

Our treatment of our troops? Many say they support the troops. Our last POTUS to understand the meaning of such was likely Reagan before that was FDR the Socalist he was even he undstood it. Letting an enemy nation and enemy nationals dictate how we fight is morally wrong. Letting them on their word accuse our troops of crimes in combat or in their country and we punish them is wrong. As long as they do not attack our own I don't care. If they think House A has a sniper living or staying there then level it. Level several blocks to make sure afterward.

The court martials which took place in the past decade show just how low our leaders go both GOP and DEMs alike. I have no respect for any Sec of Defense after WW2. They were a disgrace and Donald Rumsfeld was as pathetic at the task as Robert McNamara was under LBJ. They are fighting under rules of engagement written for U.S. by Marxist.

No troops since WW2 have received a true hero's welcome. Our leaders, our media, our Marxist ran education system, has labeled ones who go to war as criminals to be scorned, shamed, or punished by some overzealous Marxist JAG Officer who shuffled papers in an office safely back in the states getting his law degree paid for.

If we read in The Bible we see where King David's soldiers went after the man who took his kingdom away from him. They fought hard in several battles, many died for him in battle, and the enemy leader of the king was slain. King David refused to honor his troops. Why? Because they killed the man who stole his kingdom whom was also his son. Even David though after correction wised up and repented. Our leaders refuse to do so.

Not one Freeper knows what really happened to Bates. Could any Freeper do four tours {one year each} into combat under those conditions and keep their sanity? No I doubt it seriously. Our troops are being ran ragged. There has been no substantial stand down since Desert Storm. But there has been massive cuts in the number of active duty. This means fewer do more. Today's soldiers and Marines in many units are seeing far more combat time than any soldiers did in WW2. in WW2 there was set agenda and goal. In Iraq there was well Gee let me see which way the political wind blows Bush and Obama.

Sgt Bates by all rights in previous times would have been released from service with compensation after his foot injury. Now we have amputees in the military. The Armed Forces is not a place for social engineering. It is for national defense and war. Give those injured their due compensation, help, and respect due them plus more in the civilian life.

No one can withstand combat with no goal or ones that change day to day with no clear objectives or conclusion of victory. What is being done to our troops is immoral and has been such since Korea and every POTUS who was CIC in those wars from Korea-present failed. The congress same thing.

SGT Bates faced a hell daily I can not begin to imagine keeping my sanity in. Our leaders put him there. I refuse to let the media convince me to condemn him. I won't condemn him. I'll thank GOD it wasn't me whom the government abandoned.

This nation needs to wake up and rethink it's values. Either go to war as war no hold bared or stay home. Toss out the PC history books written past 1950 and see what The Bible says about war and treatment of soldiers. The only one winning today is the Marxist in power and their media mouth pieces. SGT Bates needed help two deployments ago to make certain there wasn't deployment 3 & 4 to follow. Where was our nation? Where were our presidents? Where was congress? Where were we?

76 posted on 03/24/2012 5:00:17 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe; Girlene; Gene Eric
Where were we?

I see the mods put this back on the sidebar.

Thanks for that. I've posted pretty much the same over time..

But hey, my opinion means naught. I'm (apparently) just an insane military hating leftist.

Deuteronomy 2-34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain

Deuteronomy 3-6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city

Doubt we'll ever find out about those Wheaties though.

77 posted on 03/24/2012 7:45:08 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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