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CBC wants Trayvon Martin's death investigated as potential hate crime
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| | 3/19/12 5:55 PM EDT
| By KEVIN ROBILLARD
Posted on 03/19/2012 5:45:25 PM PDT by redreno
The Congressional Black Caucus wants the Justice Department to investigate the shooting death of a 17-year-old, unarmed black Florida high school student as a potential hate crime.
This case compromises the integrity of our legal system and sets a horrific precedent of vigilante justice, Congressional Black Caucus Chair Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) said in a statement. Members of the Congressional Black Caucus stand together in the name of justice for Trayvon. As a nation we cannot, should not, and will not ignore, Trayvons brutal murder and the inconceivable fact that his killer remains free. Contrary to the flippant way this case has been handled, his life had meaning and purpose. Trayvon had a family, friends and a future all taken away because of the color of his skin
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackcaucus; blackracists; cbc; ccw; florida; georgezimmerman; hatecrime; lmm; prejudicethejury; racecaucus; selfdefense; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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posted on
03/19/2012 5:45:35 PM PDT
by
redreno
To: redreno
It may be a hate crime, but it’s more likely nothing but a blowhard itching for a fight who had a gun. George Zimmerman is clearly not an innocent victim who resorted to self defense.
2
posted on
03/19/2012 5:47:47 PM PDT
by
Clintonfatigued
(A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
To: redreno
So what’s the real story here? The racists don’t jump on the bandwagon unless there’s a cover-up in the works.
3
posted on
03/19/2012 5:49:12 PM PDT
by
sthguard
(The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
To: redreno
zimmerman had two head wounds and there may have been a struggle for the gun.
4
posted on
03/19/2012 5:50:27 PM PDT
by
biggredd1
To: redreno
Zimmerman
5
posted on
03/19/2012 5:52:13 PM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: redreno
a hate crime is when the holder DOJ investigates white on black but not black on white incidents.
6
posted on
03/19/2012 5:53:35 PM PDT
by
biggredd1
To: redreno
I think this is, ultimately, a story about a trigger happy cop wannabe and a reasonably good kid who got within range. I don’t think it’s a hate crime so much as a jerk crime.
7
posted on
03/19/2012 5:54:29 PM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
To: Clintonfatigued
I think you may be right. Not sure how you prove it though. It’s his word vs. no one’s word.
8
posted on
03/19/2012 5:54:36 PM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: redreno
Well if that fat man was trying to kill me there would have been a struggle for the gun too. Zimmerman was a bully hiding behind his “authority” as “capitain”. He will be indicted and tried.
9
posted on
03/19/2012 5:55:45 PM PDT
by
yldstrk
( My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: sthguard
Cop fanboy sought out conmfrontation with black teen and shot him. Local cops took the word of the perp and did the shoddiest investigation since Mike Nifong.
10
posted on
03/19/2012 5:58:37 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
To: Clintonfatigued
Will the sheeple in this country ever wake up and demand a “White Caucus”? Or maybe a “White history Month”?
I am not a racist, but I’m sick and tired of all these blacks demanding special treatment crap!!
Why can’t they just be Americans???
Flame away-——
11
posted on
03/19/2012 6:01:01 PM PDT
by
taillightchaser
(Third party=four more years of marxism)
To: Clintonfatigued
Will the sheeple in this country ever wake up and demand a “White Caucus”? Or maybe a “White history Month”?
I am not a racist, but I’m sick and tired of all these blacks demanding special treatment crap!!
Why can’t they just be Americans???
Flame away-——
12
posted on
03/19/2012 6:01:01 PM PDT
by
taillightchaser
(Third party=four more years of marxism)
To: Oztrich Boy
eyewitnesses saw trevon on top of zimmerman on the ground.
To: redreno
Neighborhood watch shooter is a hispanic (in spite of his whiteish name).
Should make the “hate crime” aspect interesting...
14
posted on
03/19/2012 6:01:53 PM PDT
by
HEM
To: taillightchaser
Sorry for the double post-—my bad
15
posted on
03/19/2012 6:03:04 PM PDT
by
taillightchaser
(Third party=four more years of marxism)
To: taillightchaser
breitbart is exposing who the racists are, especially the usurper in the white house and eric holder.
To: taillightchaser
What does your post have to do with this thread?
17
posted on
03/19/2012 6:06:30 PM PDT
by
Clintonfatigued
(A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
To: redreno
I want to know how the shooter got the name Zimmerman.
To: redreno
I don't know what happened here, none of us really do but if people seem to act as though they have no compassion for the dead kid's family one need only look to the liberals for the cause. We've become so conditioned to liberals using any crime involving a gun as an argument against gun ownership. As soon as a shooting happens, everyone gets defensive instead of sympathetic.
19
posted on
03/19/2012 6:08:54 PM PDT
by
liberalh8ter
(Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
To: redreno
As a black man that grew up in the ghetto I'm aware of the harassment from the police and as an adult that lives in the suburbs today! I'm not sure what to think about this one, but today in my suburbs I'm guilty until proven innocent!As I've said it here before, I was pulled over four times in eight weeks in my own neighborhood! Were they "protecting and serving"?
Does it suck? Yes, but what can I do except keep going to work and taking care of my homeschooling wife and four children.
20
posted on
03/19/2012 6:11:31 PM PDT
by
ForAmerica
(Conservative Christian Black Man!)
To: petitfour
I want to know how the shooter got the name Zimmerman. Applied for a fake SS number?
OK seriously, it's his father's name. Nothing to see there.
21
posted on
03/19/2012 6:21:14 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
To: petitfour
I want to know how the shooter got the name Zimmerman. Lots of Germans flooded to South America in the 1940s.
This should be fun. I'm not sure the race pimps in the CBC have figured out yet that Zimmerman ain't white.
22
posted on
03/19/2012 6:24:10 PM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(Democrats love direct democracy until it's time to vote on something. Then they scream for a judge)
To: redreno
I'll get right on giving a damn what those pimps think after hearing the report from The Congressional White Caucus
23
posted on
03/19/2012 6:41:20 PM PDT
by
tomkat
(FU.baraq)
To: ForAmerica
in my suburbs I'm guilty until proven innocent... Does it suck? Yes, but what can I do except keep going to work and taking care of my homeschooling wife and four children.
Similar sentiment from two of my BIL and two of my nephews. Something I, as a white guy, haven't really ever experienced except maybe traveling through Mexico - kinda creepy.
24
posted on
03/19/2012 6:46:06 PM PDT
by
1forall
(America - my home, my land, my country.)
To: biggredd1
A “struggle” more than likely initiated by Zimmerman.
The 911 tapes WILL NOT back him as the victim. He clearly sought the confrontation with an unarmed KID with a soda and a pack of Skittles.
Not to mention the 40+ calls to 911 over the past few years.
25
posted on
03/19/2012 6:46:26 PM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: Clintonfatigued
It may be a hate crime. Hate crime? Zimmerman is Hispanic. Only whites are racist.
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posted on
03/19/2012 6:46:26 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: petitfour
maybe zimmerman is puerto rican with a “new” birth certificate.
To: SJSAMPLE
if there was a struggle and zimmerman was in fear of his life, it was self defense. What does the 40 calls say except there were numerous untoward incidents being reported.
To: redreno
A lot of Floridians, of all colors and all political affiliations, also demand a closer look!
One need not be black to smell something that stinks of wrongdoing in this particular case.
An apparently innocent young man is dead at the hand of a self-appointed community vigilante,in public, and the killer was not even detained/arrested for an investigation!
WTF?
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:15:42 PM PDT
by
sarasmom
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
To: biggredd1
So the Florida law is, I can take proactive steps to engage, confront, shoot & kill anyone I “perceive” to be a threat?
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:19:18 PM PDT
by
redreno
(Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
To: ForAmerica
I was pulled over four times in eight weeks in my own neighborhood! For what?
To: redreno
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posted on
03/19/2012 7:32:25 PM PDT
by
pabianice
(")
To: Trailerpark Badass
For what?
They said that "they wanted to check me out"!!!!
33
posted on
03/19/2012 7:57:40 PM PDT
by
ForAmerica
(Conservative Christian Black Man!)
To: ForAmerica
As a black man that grew up in the ghetto I'm aware of the harassment from the police and as an adult that lives in the suburbs today! I'm not sure what to think about this one, but today in my suburbs I'm guilty until proven innocent!As I've said it here before, I was pulled over four times in eight weeks in my own neighborhood! Were they "protecting and serving"?
That's unfortunate that PD is operating that way. At our PD our race ratios of traffic stops mirror our local populace's race ratios, even though our town is on a major highway. You get stopped in my town if you do something wrong
.not if you look funny.
I'm curious though, how long were you detained each time? Were you handcuffed? Were you forced out of your vehicle? Did the officers forcefully search your vehicle? Were you given any frivolous traffic citations?
34
posted on
03/19/2012 8:15:05 PM PDT
by
brent13a
(Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
To: sarasmom
One need not be black to smell something that stinks of wrongdoing in this particular case.Unfortunately, that's the only reason this has legs. The ONLY reason this has legs. How many times a day does this happen across the US?
Over the weekend there were 10 people killed and 49 people injured in shootings in Chicago including a 6yo girl. You had black-on-black, black-on-Hispanic, Hispanic-on-Hispanic and Hispanic-on-black for the perps. My God, 59 people killed or wounded in an American city over the span of 48 hours.
If you go to Google News right now and query on: chicago killings you'll get 81 hits. If you query on: sanford zimmerman you'll get 1833 hits. And this is only because it is a perceived white-on-black killing and the race pimps are out in force. Otherwise it probably wouldn't have even made the news. Now we have Sharpton coming to Sanford. Ya, that ought to cool things down.
35
posted on
03/19/2012 8:22:57 PM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(Democrats love direct democracy until it's time to vote on something. Then they scream for a judge)
To: redreno
Politically, when Blacks go after Hispanics for “hate crimes”, it is good for Republicans.
To: ForAmerica
And you put up with that?
To: redreno
George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain and criminal justice student in Sanford, Fla,. shot Trayvon Martin on February 26 as he was walking homeJorge is a latino and the brothers will be hard pressed making this a hate crime because only whitey can be guilty of hate crimes.
I saw shiela jackson lee on TV today and the woman is truly evil and inner ugly.
The CBC is out for blood.
38
posted on
03/19/2012 8:32:57 PM PDT
by
USS Alaska
(Nuke the terrorists savages.)
To: ForAmerica
Seems to me you have a legit harrassment suit if you wanted to push it.
39
posted on
03/19/2012 9:15:24 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
To: taillightchaser
40
posted on
03/19/2012 9:42:36 PM PDT
by
matthew fuller
(A patriotic American would be ASHAMED to have 5 non-veteran adult sons.)
To: biggredd1
The calls seem to indicate a guy who was borderline paranoid and lookin for a fight. None of the previous calls resulted in arrestable actions, just unfounded allegations of mostly black youths doing nothing.
Sorry, I believe there are plenty of circumstances where a person might fear for his life, but not this one. Not even close.
One person had a soda and Skittles. The other had a GUN.
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posted on
03/20/2012 3:45:48 AM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: brent13a
You get stopped in my town if you do something wrong
.not if you look funny.
I wouldn't call a professional black man that's driving a BMW 5 series, "looking funny". And yea, it's paid for!
I'm curious though, how long were you detained each time?Were you handcuffed? Were you forced out of your vehicle? Did the officers forcefully search your vehicle? Were you given any frivolous traffic citations?
Never detained, never handcuffed, never forced out of my vehicle, never searched, nor did I received a traffic citation!
I did go to the local police station to raise hell and I haven't been pulled over since then.
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posted on
03/20/2012 5:32:05 AM PDT
by
ForAmerica
(Conservative Christian Black Man!)
To: Trailerpark Badass
And you put up with that?
Not at all, I started raising hell after the third time, I also went to the station and told them that this was ridiculous that I can't drive down the street in my own neighborhood while black (DWB)!
43
posted on
03/20/2012 5:35:54 AM PDT
by
ForAmerica
(Conservative Christian Black Man!)
To: stephenjohnbanker
Seems to me you have a legit harrassment suit if you wanted to push it.
They knew that when I got to the station (I told them!) and that's why they don't bother me anymore. But it's a shame that a black man can't drive around his own subdivision and have a house that I pay for without being a suspect or guilty until proven innocent!
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posted on
03/20/2012 5:40:29 AM PDT
by
ForAmerica
(Conservative Christian Black Man!)
To: ForAmerica
I had one last question
..was it the same police officer who pulled you over every time?
Never detained, never handcuffed, never forced out of my vehicle, never searched, nor did I received a traffic citation!
Well at least they had that much sense, to not add injury to insult.
I did go to the local police station to raise hell and I haven't been pulled over since then.
Good. So a Lt., a Capt., or a Chief listened to you. I assume you made your complaint in a calm and succinct manner
most people just go screaming into the PD and expect that will illicit the reaction they desire.
45
posted on
03/20/2012 6:39:17 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
To: HEM
I agree. Wonder if LaRaza or the Hispanic Caucus will get involved?
Of course it also leads to the question of what criteria is used for federal governemnt and/or “FBI involvment”. They don’t seem too concerned when black thugs murder or maim whites.
To: SJSAMPLE; All
Sorry, I believe there are plenty of circumstances where a person might fear for his life, but not this one. Not even close. The MSM is creating a lynch party for Zimmerman on this one.
The police where there within minutes. They found Zimmerman bleeding from wounds to the face and the back of the head. Trayvon was dead. Everyone agrees that there was a fight.
Zimmerman says that he was attacked and that it was self defense.
The police say all the physical evidence is consistent with Zimmerman's story.
Young men attack people with little provocation all the time. for being just "looked at wrong" or for being "disrespected".
Trayvon was on a weeks suspension from his High School. His father refuses to say why. Perhaps it was for drawing a picture of a gun. I do not know.
To claim that this cannot be self defense is simply being manipulated by the media, who are working very hard to make this a racial murder instead of self defense.
To: marktwain
Here’s Holder’s finding in advance.
“No clear evidence of a crime, but a culture of racism contributed to the shooting.”
To: biggredd1
zimmerman had two head wounds and there may have been a struggle for the gun.
_______________________________________________
Here's a clue sparky.....
If you have a gun, follow and then approach an unarmed person who doesn't know you and a struggle ensues, you are not defending yourself if you then shoot and kill the unarmed person you followed and accosted.
Based on the known facts - the kid was carrying candy and iced tea and had every right to be where he was -- zimmerman was told by the 911 op to back off -- zimmerman approached the kid --- zimmerman shot the kid --- this should be a slam dunk -- murder.
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posted on
03/20/2012 7:39:19 AM PDT
by
wtc911
(Amigo - you've been had.)
To: muir_redwoods
a reasonably good kid
__________________________
"reasonably"???
What exactly is there about the kid's benahior that makes you qualify your judgement of him?
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posted on
03/20/2012 7:41:10 AM PDT
by
wtc911
(Amigo - you've been had.)
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