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To: ohioWfan
Always remember, Papa, that more than 51% of Americans thought Barack Obama would be a good President.

This is EXACTLY my point. When 51% of the population thought that President Obama was a good idea, you are NOT going to get acceptance for something so far out of the mainstream. You can work to change mainstream opinion, but mainstream opinion is what we have to work with.

Right now, in 2012, you can get a majority of the voters enthused about improving the economy. You can get a majority enthused about being more secure against terrorist attack. You can get a majority getting behind the idea that we should not be spending American lives and treasure on military objectives unless we are serious about winning.

Reducing violent street crime? That's a winner. Cutting gas prices by increasing domestic supplies? Easy sell.

Getting a majority enthused about the importance of banning porn? Not so much. They might accept a candidate who advocates this if they are extremely enthused about his other positions, and if Rick was running 60-70% approval in the polls, I'd say go for it. But Rick is NOT running 70% in the polls.

328 posted on 03/17/2012 4:24:29 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
#1 - morality is not that far out of the mainstream. In polls, Santorum's and Gingrich's views on these subject have been majority opinion.

#2 - No one is saying that moral subjects should supplant discussions of the economy (why is that non-truth still floating on this thread?)

#3 - No one has suggested that we try to get 'a majority enthused about the importance of banning porn.' That doesn't mean that those of us who understand the harm that it does to individuals, and to American society should just shut up.

#4 - considering the whole sale attacks by the left (and some who claim to be on the right, like libertarians and the Republican establishment), Rick is doing very well in the polls, and in some is beating Obama.

What I'm saying is, don't deny the right to discuss important issues just because you don't personally find them important.

Most of us do. Most of us want to live in a (morally) cleaner country.

Don't make fun of those of us who are moral conservatives, because we are fiscal, small government conservatives as well. You don't have to remove one because of the others. Across the board conservatism is what the whole thing is about, and watching social conservativism being mocked by partial conservatives doesn't sit too well with those of us who see the big picture better than the part-timers do.

330 posted on 03/17/2012 4:33:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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