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OHIO: Valley splits support on GOP presidential candidates [number crunchers give your opinion]
Vindy ^ | March 7, 2012 | David Skolnick

Posted on 03/07/2012 7:21:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

YOUNGSTOWN, OH - In an extremely tight race, Mitt Romney edged Rick Santorum in the Ohio Republican primary.

With 96 percent of the vote counted, Romney was about 12,000 votes ahead of Santorum. Romney won Mahoning and Trumbull counties in close races and was blown out by the former Pennsylvania senator in Columbiana County.

Regardless of the official outcome, Romney almost definitely will receive a majority of the state’s 66 delegates, in part, because of a failure by the Santorum campaign.

Republican candidates are on the ballot twice in Ohio — once for 15 at-large delegates divided among the candidates based on the statewide vote, and once for three delegates in each of the state’s 16 congressional districts. Ohio also has three super at-large delegates not bound by Tuesday’s primary vote.

Santorum couldn’t find any delegates willing to support him for the party’s nomination in three Ohio congressional districts — the new 6th, a 17-county district including all of Columbiana County and southern Mahoning County; the new 13th, which includes most of Mahoning and Trumbull counties; and the new 9th, which stretches from Cleveland to Toledo along Lake Erie.

Also, Santorum failed to find six other delegates in four other Ohio congressional districts.

All Santorum’s campaign needed to do was find three delegates in each district and obtain at least 50 valid signatures on nominating petitions for those delegates.

The problem cost Santorum the three delegates in the new 6th, according to an analysis of vote totals by The Vindicator in that congressional district. That same analysis showed that based on unofficial and incomplete results, Santorum wouldn’t have won either the 13th or 9th Districts.

A narrow Romney win in the key swing state doesn’t provide the candidate with much momentum in his effort to capture the GOP presidential nomination.

In Columbiana County, Santorum soundly defeated Romney 42.63 percent to 27.97 percent in the at-large race.

With Santorum ineligible for delegates in the 6th, GOP voters in Columbiana voted for Newt Gingrich, who finished a distant third, to receive delegates.

Gingrich received 17.03 percent of the county’s at-large vote, but received 36.79 percent of the 6th District delegate vote. Romney’s at-large vote was 27.97 percent compared to 36.27 percent for the delegate vote. Gingrich had 50 more district delegate votes than Romney in Columbiana County.

“This is a very strong cultural conservative county,” said Columbiana County GOP Chairman Dave Johnson, who is also Romney’s county chairman there. “When you take Santorum out, Republicans went with Gingrich. This congressional district is very conservative. There’s an uprising among conservatives. We’re not unified behind anyone of our candidates. This group will eventually unite and the reason is they’ll unite against [President Barack] Obama. But it’s unsettled now.”

Republican voters don’t think Romney is conservative enough, said Johnson, who calls himself an “arch conservative” and added that Romney is conservative enough for him.

In Mahoning County, Romney edged Santorum by 2.5 percent, only 374 votes in the at-large race, according to unofficial totals.

In the delegate races for the 6th and 13th Congressional Districts, Romney won by about 10 percent over Gingrich.

“We knew it was going to be close,” said county Republican Chairman Mark Munroe, that county’s Romney chairman. “Santorum not filling delegates hurt him. The struggle for the nomination goes on.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopprimary; oh; romney2012; santorum2012
The way I read this, Mitt would have had a bigger win if the voters hadn't voted for Newt in congressional districts where Santorum had failed to get his delegate slates filled.

Could Santorum have stopped Mitt in Ohio if he had finished filling in those slates?

Ohio vote and awarded delegates [scroll up to top]

1 posted on 03/07/2012 7:22:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would like to see the US counties map for Romney primary support this year laid next to the US counties for Obama support in 2008 elections. It might show an interesting demographic...


2 posted on 03/07/2012 7:30:13 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney, Virginia GOP commits election fraud: FOX News
The Examiner
Michael Phelps

With only minutes before the first Super-Tuesday Caucuses were set to close, FOX News and the University of Virginia Center for Politics reported a likely election fraud situation, committed by Mitt Romney and the Virginia GOP.

The establishment elite may be up to their usual 2012, nomination process shenanigans again as more people in positions of knowing have come forward to proclaim their displeasure with the establishment’s handling of challenges to their favorite candidate.

Multiple states across the country reported precincts tampered with, votes permanently lost, elections oddly postponed, permanently unverifiable results, and now simply not even allowing candidates to even be on the ballot to begin with.

Reporting from Virginia, FOX News’s Shannon Breen gave voice to political analyst, Virginia Tech’s Larry Sabato, who says it is very likely Mitt Romney and the Virginia GOP establishment, and their minions purposely kept signatures from being counted so, at least, Newt Gingrich wouldn’t be on Virginia’s ballot on Super-Tuesday.
 
With only minutes before the first Super-Tuesday Caucuses were set to close, FOX News and the University of Virginia Center for Politics reported a likely election fraud situation, committed by Mitt Romney and the Virginia GOP.

The establishment elite may be up to their usual 2012, nomination process shenanigans again as more people in positions of knowing have come forward to proclaim their displeasure with the establishment’s handling of challenges to their favorite candidate.
Multiple states across the country reported precincts tampered with, votes permanently lost, elections oddly postponed, permanently unverifiable results, and now simply not even allowing candidates to even be on the ballot to begin with.

Reporting from Virginia, FOX News’s Shannon Breen gave voice to political analyst, Virginia Tech’s Larry Sabato, who says it is very likely Mitt Romney and the Virginia GOP establishment, and their minions purposely kept signatures from being counted so, at least, Newt Gingrich wouldn’t be on Virginia’s ballot on Super-Tuesday.
 
If the allegations are investigated and found to be accurate, it would represent an addition to the growing list of reports showing the establishment elite to be manipulating the nomination process country wide, in favor on Mitt Romney.

Further stealing caucuses from other candidates, mainly Ron Paul, to likely insure the continuance of a 1%’r agenda that, according to Wall Street and the lion’s share of its campaign donation money, Mitt Romney is most likely to support should he be the nominee and beat Obama in November.

Supporting Medium: 

FOX News (video): Romney & GOP kept Gingrich off of Virginia ballot

Examiner: Ron Paul’s wife, Carol Paul says elections are being stolen

CSM: Did Mitt Romney steal Maine caucuses from Ron Paul?

BuzzFeed: “Outrage”: Ron Paul Manager Claim Conspiracy In Maine

Political Wire: Santorum Says Romney Rigged Straw Poll

WSJ: Paul Campaign Challenges Romney’s Maine Win

Examiner: Maine vote fraud official

Examiner: Nevada vote fraud official

Examiner: Iowa vote fraud official

Suggested by the author:
Iowa’s delegate seats for sale: Sources
Carol Paul: Election fraud confirmed
Romney Paul alliance: Pure establishment theater
Ron Paul Campaign: Establishment hiding Maine Caucus results
Newsmax accidentally prints Romney Nevada win article 2 days early

POSTED BY INTERCEPT AT 7:27 PM
LABELS: CORPORATE RULE, ELECTION FRAUD, LARRY SABATO, MITT ROMNEY, NEWT GINGRICH, RICK SANTORUM, RON PAUL, VIRGINIA


3 posted on 03/07/2012 7:37:25 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Look at the map. The population centers, i.e. the moderates and liberals, voted for Romney. The rest went for Santorum, i.e. the conservative.

And all the population centers will go for Obama in November, as well as the states of VT and MA, which Romney also won handily. Not much of a victory.


4 posted on 03/07/2012 7:37:36 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“When you take Santorum out, Republicans went with Gingrich. This congressional district is very conservative."

Well, isn't THAT interesting! I just heard Santorum's campaign guy on Laura Ingraham say that Rick's voters probably WOULDN'T go for Newt if Rick dropped out. I am starting to get very fed up with all the Santorum people telling Newt to GET OUT NOW. How about Rick sit out Alabama and Mississippi and let Gringrich take on Romney one on one?

5 posted on 03/07/2012 7:39:49 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

There are more chapters left to unfold in this primary.

Erick Erickson is having his latest melt-down at Red State.

The man is flighty, ALWAYS so sure of himself in his alarm over events.... until new events take him.


6 posted on 03/07/2012 7:49:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cotton1706
....The population centers, i.e. the moderates and liberals, voted for Romney.

It's been the same in ALL the states so far.

7 posted on 03/07/2012 7:51:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Linda Frances
The establishment elite may be up to their usual 2012, nomination process shenanigans

I am Shocked

8 posted on 03/07/2012 7:57:10 AM PST by itsahoot (This space currently for rent. 1-800-555-1212)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Oh you are so silly. Don’t you know this standing down so I can go one on one only goes one way. Newt effectively did stand down in MI and OH choosing not to campaign in those states and still Little Ricky couldn’t seal the deal. In return Little Ricky campaigned in GA and I’m sure he will go full throttle in Al and MS.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 8:00:27 AM PST by redangus
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
Newt and Rick supporters need to stand together against romney otherwise he wins. I have always said that Rick is my guy, but I will vote for Newt; never romney or paul. If we fight one another we will end up with romney. I have defended Rick, but have never said anything to harm Newt. I have heard a lot of Newt supporters who call Rick names and make outlandish claims about him. I hear some say they will never vote for Santorum if he gets in. Is that what you want Santorum supporters to say if Newt gets in? We will never support Newt? Is Santorum perfect? No. Neither is Newt. Some of the people who say they are Newt supporters, I'm starting to question if they are really romney supporters trying to make us fight one another rather than the real enemy; romney. Lets work together to take out romney. Otherwise we will have to pray for a third party, because I will NEVER vote for romney.
10 posted on 03/07/2012 8:02:54 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Super Tuesday gains in delegates:

11 posted on 03/07/2012 8:06:51 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Interesting! Thank you.

And:

...”of all votes cast in the Republican presidential race so far, Mitt Romney has won about 41 percent of the “popular vote,” while Santorum has won 25 percent, Gingrich 23 percent, and Paul 11 percent.

Of course, what matters in the end is the number of delegates won, not the number of contests or votes won. There are varying counts, but let’s use the RealClearPolitics one. That has Romney at 404, Santorum at 161, Gingrich at 105, and Paul at 61. Right now, Gingrich doesn’t see himself as being in a significantly different position from Santorum’s.”...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/292840/one-reason-newt-wont-budge-john-hood

AND

....””If I thought he was a slam dunk to beat Romney and to beat Obama, I would really consider getting out. I don’t,” Gingrich said on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America radio show on Wednesday, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “I think each of the three candidates has strengths and weaknesses and that this is a very healthy vetting process.”....

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/gingrich-says-he-won-t-drop-out-20120307?mrefid=election2012


12 posted on 03/07/2012 8:17:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

thanks, and take a look at my comment on VA:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2855699/posts?page=81#81

too late now.


13 posted on 03/07/2012 8:41:14 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I’ll check it out. Look at the totals of HARD delegates:

Not sure how this running total will line up (formatting) but it can be found here:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R

GOP PRIMARY: Popular Vote - — Soft Pledged –- - Soft Unpledged – — Soft Total –- - Hard Total

Mitt Romney: ….3,242,740, 39.20% …(314)17.36% …(72)15.09% …(386)16.89% ….(302)13.21%

Rick Santorum: 2,087,454, 25.23% ….(92) 5.09% ….(67)14.05% ….(159) 6.96% ….(79)3.46%

Newt Gingrich: 1,818,548, 21.98% .....(107)5.91% .…...(13) 2.73%...(120)5.25% ….(96)4.20%

Ron Paul: ……….,927,348, 11.21% ...…(35)1.93%.......(38)7.97%......(73)3.19% …..(16)0.70%


14 posted on 03/07/2012 8:58:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cotton1706

This is the Mahoning Valley - they ONLY vote Democrat in the generals. Far too few of us conservatives in the area....(sigh)


15 posted on 03/07/2012 9:23:07 AM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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