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The Hidden Scandal of Sandra Fluke: Behind Rush Limbaugh's Massive Blunder
Cure Socialism ^ | March 5, 2012 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:35 AM PST by Moseley

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To: Lorianne
Now that the issue has been converted to a personal attack on a woman, that is the issue from now on.

Fair enough. That's a good observation.

41 posted on 03/06/2012 8:33:10 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: arrdon

You’re gonna have a lot more pressing problems, very soon, if zero is re-elected,

like keeping warm & fed & safe from marauding gangs of 0bamazombies.


42 posted on 03/06/2012 8:35:20 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: trailhkr1; netmilsmom; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife
RE :”I work with 10-14 women (non political types as you mentioned)on a regular basis and they are running to the democrat platform over all this contraception crap.
This issue is going to kill the GOP at election time. Most women want gov’t out of their uterus even if they don't take BC

Even though Republicans started with a valid issue, religious employers being forced to provide drugs that they find morally objectionable, I can fully imagine Republicans losing this war of words and images to Dems. After all, they have lost every battle they tried with Obama since taking the house last year.

After seeing how Pelosi (and her lib women house members) used the Issa hearing by claiming it was a ‘ panel on women's health issues’, they should have known exactly what their line of propaganda would be to Blunt Amendment. It was the same and the MSM picked up on it again.

For example, what if the congressional Republicans went out as a team (as Pelosi manages) and kept repeating that the Blunt amendment and this fight is really about mandating that women, or maybe the Church, pay for Viagra for men? (just an example.) The goal is to neutralize Dems strategies and turn them around on them. Women who see 'free BC' to women as a big plus need to understand why these mandates are bad for them too. Republicans never think of that.

Republican have this bad habit of not seeing that they are losing the war of words and then doubling down on the same strategy, and then caving when total destruction is within an arms reach.

Dems FIGHT TO WIN, Especially Pelosi.

43 posted on 03/06/2012 8:35:45 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Big Horn

I don’t like Rush. He panders to the cheap seats - and most of us sit in the cheap seats from time to time. He deals in righteous indignation, mockery, easy outrage, provocation, contempt.

Sure he can be informative, bringing up news or viewpoints that the MSM won’t touch. And sure, I agree with most of his politics. I used to listen to him but I found he was not good for my soul. Now I find him irritating - I’m tired of the blusterer and blowhard.

So why does the average non-political woman not like him? The reasons above are valid, even just as a matter of taste: he is certainly not to everyone’s liking. He tries not to be.

He’s not “nice.” Women place a premium on being “nice” and not being “hurtful.” You are allowed not to be nice only if you are politically correct and attack the right targets. Most people don’t question the political indoctrination in which they live. And because he’s anti-feminist - most women pay at least lip service to feminism.

I despise Fluke and her brand of political manipulation, and her deliberate attempt to undermine the tenets of the university she enrolled in. But attack that - not her personal sexual behavior and morality - which was never the issue. Most women have been verbally attacked in sexual terms in disputes - so Rush’s attack on Fluke made them sympathize with her - a tactical blunder on his part.


44 posted on 03/06/2012 8:39:38 AM PST by heartwood
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To: sickoflibs

I informed my OB/GYN that I could not take Birth Control pills for hemorrhaging periods. There are many other hormone pills to take, because that’s what they are, hormone pills.

I even had Progesterone suppositories made at a local pharmacy.

“The pill” is just the easiest to write on a script. If a woman is not given the option to get a little plastic pack, she will be given a script for another pill. It’s in the marketing and not the ingredients.

DON’T let the libs fool you.


45 posted on 03/06/2012 8:41:19 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Moseley; holdonnow
"If anyone should know better, it is Rush. But Rush was thinking mainly about getting publicity for himself, to garner interest in people listening to his show."

REALLY???

With clueless "friends" like you, conservatives don't need any other enemies.

46 posted on 03/06/2012 8:44:22 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Andrew loved the battle and he knew the stakes." ~ Mark Levin 3/2/12)
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47 posted on 03/06/2012 8:46:24 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: hampdenkid

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48 posted on 03/06/2012 8:53:13 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: heartwood

I’m not sure what kind of crowd you socialize in, but you’re making the mistake of thinking that most women are sympathetic to sluts.


49 posted on 03/06/2012 8:57:36 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: sickoflibs

And also, let me add this.
I’ve done medical billing when I was a Medical Office manager. Insurance companies pay for meds depending on the ICD (diagnostic) and CPT (treatment) codes. If a woman walks into a GYN office and says that she has irregular periods, she gets a certain diagnostic and a certain treatment code. If she had prescription coverage, she must have the right codes. They WILL pay for “the pill” if she is being treated for a medical condition, just because most other hormone pills have slipped away. They are there, but “the pill” is more available. They are not going to pay for contraception but will pay for hormone treatment.

See the difference?


50 posted on 03/06/2012 9:14:22 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Balding_Eagle

A lot of women are not sympathetic to sluts. Most women are sympathetic to women who are called sluts.

Fluke did not say she was using contraception. She did not say she was having sex. She did not say she was having a lot of sex. She did not say she had a lot of sexual partners. What she said was that women at Georgetown should have the university insurance pay for their contraception if they want it. (I strongly disagree with her.) She appointed herself an advocate for these women and said NOTHING about her own life.

Fluke may be celibate. She might be engaged and faithful to her fiance. She might be a lesbian. She might be secretly married. She might be unfortunately typical of many young women with several different partners a year. She might be wildly promiscuous. We don’t know. Rush didn’t know.

Calling her a slut is unwarranted. Calling her a prostitute was out of line. It was not just wrong. It was stupid.


51 posted on 03/06/2012 9:14:27 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Matchett-PI

>>To: holdonnow<<

I saw what you did there. LOL, good for you! He is so good at what he does.


52 posted on 03/06/2012 9:17:41 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Moseley

I appreciate your argument. One thing you might want to correct — since Fluke didn’t actually testify at a real hearing (it was a fake hearing, one of those gatherings where democrats get together and pretend to hold a hearing where only their side talks), she was never under oath, so she wouldn’t commit perjury by lying.

This may be why, when the republicans offered to allow the democrats to call her as a witness at the real hearing, the democrats ended up choosing a different witness, and then cancelling that witness as well.


53 posted on 03/06/2012 9:19:30 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Moseley; All
Let me give you an idea of what a liberal jack-wagon Fluke is, and how ridiculous her presentation was. She was not under oath. She was offered as an expert by the Democrats, but she was rejected; so the Democrats let her sit in a room and make a presentation to them, not under oath, and the news media covered it as if she were an expert. She said she was going to speak for other women, not herself, and never - not a single time - spoke about her sex life or her use of contraceptives.

But, she talked about six select women. One of them was a woman who was raped and, in Fluke's words, didn't seek medical care:

"even to be examined or tested for sexually transmitted infections because she thought insurance wasn’t going to cover something like that, something that was related to a woman’s reproductive health."

Laughable, right? The woman's problem wasn't that she didn't have contraception paid for by Georgetown; the woman's problem was that she was stupid. Contraception doesn't fix stupid.

Rush could have had a field day with that.

But he didn't. He went on and on about how much sex Fluke claimed she was having - three guys a night, and so on, when Fluke never mentioned her own sex life or use of contraception.

And Fluke said a married coed at Georgetown couldn't afford prescription contraception. We know, and Rush could have told the world, that it's available for $9 to $15 a month, generic. But Rush said that Fluke was buying condoms in the sixth grade, and that she was a prostitute.

And Fluke claimed that a woman had a medical condition and her doctors prescribed a contraceptive to treat it, but the evil insurance company personally interviewed the woman and decided that she wanted to have sex, and that was the reason for the contraceptive, so they denied coverage.

Can you imagine El-Rushmo riffing on that? It would be hilarious. But he didn't. He talking about how Fluke was base and immoral to be telling the world she was having sex with so many men.

Rush completely missed the mark twice. Fluke threw him softballs. He didn't even swing at them. And then he made up all of these things she supposedly said about her own sex life, and called her a slut as a result, when she never mentioned her sex life, the cost of her own contraceptives, or whether she was even on or needed contraception.

Does that make sense?

54 posted on 03/06/2012 9:22:38 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: netmilsmom
RE :”I’ve done medical billing when I was a Medical Office manager. Insurance companies pay for meds depending on the ICD (diagnostic) and CPT (treatment) codes. If a woman walks into a GYN office and says that she has irregular periods, she gets a certain diagnostic and a certain treatment code. If she had prescription coverage, she must have the right codes. They WILL pay for “the pill” if she is being treated for a medical condition, just because most other hormone pills have slipped away. They are there, but “the pill” is more available. They are not going to pay for contraception but will pay for hormone treatment.
See the difference?

I appreciate that info.

55 posted on 03/06/2012 9:24:19 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: netmilsmom; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife
RE :”I informed my OB/GYN that I could not take Birth Control pills for hemorrhaging periods. There are many other hormone pills to take, because that’s what they are, hormone pills. I even had Progesterone suppositories made at a local pharmacy. “The pill” is just the easiest to write on a script. If a woman is not given the option to get a little plastic pack, she will be given a script for another pill. It’s in the marketing and not the ingredients.
DON’T let the libs fool you.

A few years back I have a divorced neighbor friend that would have the most extreme mood swings (like bi-polar) that I saw personally during PMS/period, and she eventually went on what she said was the ‘birth control pill’ and it effectively softened the swings making her life manageable. At the same time she wanted have unmarried sex (being recently divorced) with different men with the pills protection. And she is a non-practicing Catholic yet. Better yet, she told me she believes that Mothers should put their teenage daughters on the pill.(standard where I live.)

So in her case it was both at least in her view.

I am 100% against Obama-care mandates. Have been. But I think this is an easy battle for Republicans to lose if they are not careful. And they are on a losing streak. If Pelosi becomes Speaker again then 2010 was a waste, and she will try to overturn DOMA.

56 posted on 03/06/2012 9:26:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: heartwood

>>Most women are sympathetic to women who are called sluts.<<

Not if they are sluts.
Please don’t make us all out to be sniveling Twilight moms who sit around waiting for the next “Sex and the City” movie watching “The View”.

Maybe where you live, woman are crying in their lattes for this chick. Where I live, right here in MI, women think she is Nancy’s b!tch who is lying by omission to forward her agenda. And honestly, Rush brought this to a head and it popped. What happens after a pimple pops?


57 posted on 03/06/2012 9:29:26 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: sickoflibs

But the debate is whether a woman has access to “contraception” for medical issues. Your story proves that they do.


58 posted on 03/06/2012 9:32:13 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom
"I saw what you did there. LOL, good for you! He is so good at what he does."

I agree. :) Like Rush:

HERE

59 posted on 03/06/2012 9:33:11 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Andrew loved the battle and he knew the stakes." ~ Mark Levin 3/2/12)
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60 posted on 03/06/2012 9:34:21 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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